Force Sensitive Archive
Thread: Good god NO ONE WILL GET JEDI!! :(
Aronwill
Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:33 pm
#14
airuk wrote:
You need 7,350,000 FS xp to complete your 6 branches
(not including novice xp) weapon xp conversion rate
30 to 1, then +combat xp. So in one cap out you will recieve about FS 60,000xp so you will need 122 cap outs to finish this. That means it will take you 109,800,000 weapon xp and 10,980,000 combat xp.
master swordsman with 3h buffs can cap it out once before buffs wear off. thats 366 hours or 15.2 24hour days played. If you played 8 hours a day non stop it would take you 45 days. Now split that xp up per group mate your looking at with about 6 groupmates 274 days of 8 hour a day playtime, and thats only if your group can kill these missions within 3-4 mins.
This unbearable. They need to change the FS xp rate to fit the CU
if it wasnt hard everyone would be jedi as it is there is loads and it unbalances the game wheres the coolness if everyone in the game is jedi?
BadgerSmaker
Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:17 am
#15
airuk wrote:
No i dont want there to be 1million jedi, but there needs to be a way for casual gamers, people who cant devote a EXTREME ALOT of gaming time to SWG, to get jedi status.
Yeah, there should be a way to get a jedi without actually playing the game, but only for roleplayers... what are you on about? 
And you dont have to grind... just play the game and bank XP as you go.
A true Jedi knows patience. 
TheIncredibleEd
Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:25 am
#16
BadgerSmaker wrote:
airuk wrote:
No i dont want there to be 1million jedi, but there needs to be a way for casual gamers, people who cant devote a EXTREME ALOT of gaming time to SWG, to get jedi status.
Yeah, there should be a way to get a jedi without actually playing the game, but only for roleplayers... what are you on about?
And you dont have to grind... just play the game and bank XP as you go.
A true Jedi knows patience.
There aren't any true jedis in this game. SOE lacks the creativity to make a quest that would weed out or even limit non true jedis.
Just the other day I was in a group going to raid some rebel bases.
As soon as we shuttled in before we even had a chance to react 3 light jedis and some other people slaughtered us all and then laughed at our corpses.
Rebels are really just terrorists in this game. Including light jedis. Part of the reason I play imperial is because the "good side" isn't good at all. It's usually like that in any game with a good and bad side. Which is why i play the bad side. At least the "bad side" isn'tlying toitself thinking it's good.
They should have made it so if jedis did things like camp shuttles and slaughter people while they were loading it started altering their alignment, so if a jedi did that a lot they would become dark jedis.
Right now dark jedis and light jedis just have different titles. The same with rebels and imperials, except rebels have about 5 times the numbers and imps have AT-STs.
This isn't Star Wars. This is Iraq with lightsabers. I'm not sure which side is which though.
MrDoppa
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:44 am
#17
I hate to be one of thos "if it's not like this I'll quit" people. But with 5 trees done and half of the last tree done and the cu hitting quite by surprise, you can count my 3 accounts out if this doesn't go super smoothly. And I mean super smoothly. I know my little pittance of accounts doesn't make a difference to SOE. But then again, I wouldnt be doing it to punish SOE. I'd just be so disappointed that I'd rather invest my time somewhere else.
TheIncredibleEd
Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:19 am
#18
SOE is continuing to establish its position as the most dishonest and money-oriented company in the business.
Jedis are in the game.
Frogloks are in the game.
The CU is up on May 5th.
/pizza
Station Exchange.
Multiple game versions released with the more expensive versions having more in game bonuses.
Lots of little account additions for a small fee.
More expansions released than all other games, while bugs remain unfixed as they can't sell bug fixes (well, thats debatable)
Games, patches and expansions rushed out to meet good release periods.
and screw continuity if it means being able to have both well known characters and player jedis in the same game.
SOE: You're in our wallet now.
SOE won't stop treating their customers like wallets unless people actually cancel their accounts.
SOE is a multi-national corporation. They don't understand complex human concepts such as honesty, ethics, trust. What they understand is money. If people complain but keep paying as far as they are concerned they are doing everything right. So if people actually want them to treat players like people instead of wallets they are gonna need to use a concept SOE actually understands.
$$$
Necronmaster
Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:39 am
#19
Well given everything is about to get nerfed for fs gaining, I think we should try to find another way to make it better. Grinding was becomming bland after awhile. I would much rather get my boxes through quests. 1 quest per week would be allowed and at the same time, peeps could have fun doing somethign else than grinding away at seemingly endless hordes of creatures.
You need 24 boxes/6 full branches to do the final misison.
If you do 1 quest per week, that's 24 boxes,that's roughly 6 months to complete plus the time in between phases to unlock the branches. So you'd be looking at the better part of a year but could have fun at the same time provided the quests to break on ya. Plus rewards would be enough to where you could be ready to make your first lightsaber by the time you unlock.
TheIncredibleEd
Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:42 am
#20
Yeah, quests would be so much better. Like the quests for JtL, but on the ground. Maybe with some boxes requiring exp grinding as well. That would be so much better.
Necronmaster wrote:
Well given everything is about to get nerfed for fs gaining, I think we should try to find another way to make it better. Grinding was becomming bland after awhile. I would much rather get my boxes through quests. 1 quest per week would be allowed and at the same time, peeps could have fun doing somethign else than grinding away at seemingly endless hordes of creatures.
You need 24 boxes/6 full branches to do the final misison.
If you do 1 quest per week, that's 24 boxes,that's roughly 6 months to complete plus the time in between phases to unlock the branches. So you'd be looking at the better part of a year but could have fun at the same time provided the quests to break on ya. Plus rewards would be enough to where you could be ready to make your first lightsaber by the time you unlock.
wintersNight
Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:44 am
#21
I am pretty upset that they changed the date like this. EVeryone was getting ready for this weekend, and they knew it. Poor form on their part.
AnzelVincir wrote:
ventilador wrote:
noooooo
i was planing to finish my last branch this week
now i cant!!!!
I spent a lot of time preparing for this thurs - sun. What really burns is that they knew everyone thought it was going live on the 5th. Tiggs knew. TH knew. They all knew.
Anyone else troubled with the way we are being treated?
jcesare
Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:20 am
#22
Have you looked at the Jedi grind calculations?
The estimate is over 600 days to complete your template.
airuk
Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:57 pm
#23
No i dont want there to be 1million jedi, but there needs to be a way for casual gamers, people who cant devote a EXTREME ALOT of gaming time to SWG, to get jedi status. Sadly, i have to have a job and cannot devote that much time to get one. I dont want one so i can be "uber" or so i can "pwn noobs" i want so i can roleplay with. So here is an idea for a new jedi system
What they need to do is make jedi initiate a class you can just pick, and till he gets padawan status he's EXTREMLY crappy, They could do a ton with this, and also keep it restricted to people who've played awhile. It would also make some people happy.
#1 you'd need to have enough to buy crystals/pearls and so fourth (so you'd have to atleast have a master in something)
#2 You could make a VERY HARD raid boss where it would take 20-50 friends to complete
This would be the final stage of the padawan trials.Where after you would become padawan.
#3 make jedi initiate take just as much xp as FS xp if not more to get to padawan
#4 you'd have to become Force sensitve before getting initiate status just the same way as you do now because you follow quests and its a bit fun.
I know if i had the title, the saber, and the robe i would be able to endure the grind and eventually be a padawan no matter how long it takes, but with this current system now its way to boring to kill 5billion mobs so you can get jedi....it doesnt even make any sense.
You guys must remember this is a game not work, and if it is work i dont get paid for it :/ Games are here to be fun.
What they need to do is make jedi initiate a class you can just pick, and till he gets padawan status he's EXTREMLY crappy, They could do a ton with this, and also keep it restricted to people who've played awhile. It would also make some people happy.
#1 you'd need to have enough to buy crystals/pearls and so fourth (so you'd have to atleast have a master in something)
#2 You could make a VERY HARD raid boss where it would take 20-50 friends to complete
This would be the final stage of the padawan trials.Where after you would become padawan.
#3 make jedi initiate take just as much xp as FS xp if not more to get to padawan
#4 you'd have to become Force sensitve before getting initiate status just the same way as you do now because you follow quests and its a bit fun.
I know if i had the title, the saber, and the robe i would be able to endure the grind and eventually be a padawan no matter how long it takes, but with this current system now its way to boring to kill 5billion mobs so you can get jedi....it doesnt even make any sense.
You guys must remember this is a game not work, and if it is work i dont get paid for it :/ Games are here to be fun.
Message Edited by airuk on 04-26-2005 01:00 AM
Leanardo
Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:41 pm
#24
yes i definatly like the idea of quests for boxes. I love quests...anyone ever done the little side quests, there alot of fun and you get some good loot. Also i totally agree with the fact that hardly any jedis get the point of jedi. They do it for the "pwning". A light jedi should never be perma overt. They should be in hiding. And for them to gain levels they shouldnt kill harmless beasts. Yes they would need to grind some but it should be more about character and gaining xp through some system that isnt on killing spawns for a year. But then again that would force the devs to be creative and make this game fun and that is not what they have in mind. I mean come on any 8 year old can make a system where you have to kill alot of stuff and get 1/4 of a box every trade in and you need 24 boxes.
Thats my 2 cents peace
Leo
Pedman
Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:28 pm
#25
Who said it was coming out the 5th? did everyone assume it came out with RoTW or did a name in red say it?
AnzelVincir wrote:
ventilador wrote:
noooooo
i was planing to finish my last branch this week
now i cant!!!!
I spent a lot of time preparing for this thurs - sun. What really burns is that they knew everyone thought it was going live on the 5th. Tiggs knew. TH knew. They all knew.
Anyone else troubled with the way we are being treated?
Blackmoore
Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:39 pm
#26
My philosphy will be that if it so difficult to get Jedi now, I will gr.. er kill as many Jedi as I can. That is the way the force works. Devs bust my chops I will bust Jedi chops. Period. It will be the only way to enjoy the game.