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Thread: Force Sensitive Exp Primer (Jedi will take minimum of 92 hours! proof inside)

Kuval
Thu May 26, 2005 9:12 pm
#14


Did you all miss the part where I said its more likely to be 130 hours? Give me a BLOODY BREAK... read the entire post before you reply... man you people annoy me... 92 hours of grinding, and 40% *almost* of downtime... so sT*U plz.. and cry me a river... MAN I hate ignorant pukes


Don't say it cant be done... because my numbers say it can... Please stop wasting my time.



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Anakroid
Thu May 26, 2005 10:21 pm
#15


The roundtrip to/from the village takes me about 15 mins, 20 max.



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Kuval
Thu May 26, 2005 10:27 pm
#16

I did it on a landspeeder... and I went kinda slow... and i chatted when I got there... I made sure to allow lots of time... I guess double the time it usually takes... if anything you're hurting everyone else on this post who disagrees with me...


Thx for the support tho annie.. i think.


The difference is I provide proof with numbers... and estimates afterwards... these people just like to flame/troll and i hope they all die.



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Piffy
Thu May 26, 2005 10:27 pm
#17

kuval i like all your info thanks!



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Kuval
Thu May 26, 2005 11:46 pm
#18

Nice to see positive feedback... that makes 2! thx guys



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Doug123
Fri May 27, 2005 12:15 am
#19



Alright, this is not the first time we have seen a numbered response to making a Jedi trying to make things look easier than they actually are, let me explain why a math anaylsis is possible but yours is lacking:


1. Pistol exp means that you require armor, which means that u make money to have armor. Grinding 1.2 million in two professions will eat your armor. Now you may be able to get some credits for hides or bone, but most of the valuable hides are oddball from mobs that you cannot exp from.


2. 40 Min for 1.2 million exp - hummm - ok looking at numbers 1.2 million exp is 240 mobs at 5000 exp the most exp u get from a mob. That is alot of mobs, and in precu I was doing 900 k in 3 - 5 hrs - depending on server reboot and on serveral other factors. I am helping my brother make padawan, and I am seeing slower exp than precu in and out of group.


3. BF - you can't fight nonstop 92 hrs, you need to do other things like clear BF, try and locate supplies. I spend as much time getting items and clearing bf etc as I do fighting.


Alright, I did padawan, and yes i had some uber nights of exp where the young rancors seemed to line up in a row of nests waiting for me to clear them, but most times this was not the case.I spend 23 weeks doing 5 hrs of gaming per night mostly of hard combat to make Jedi initiate. Yes, about 800 hours to become Jedi, and I probably spent another 800 hrs getting items I needed and doctors buffs to fight. Now with the postcu yes u can definately stack more exp thus save on trips to the fs village, and you dont need doc buffs to fight, but my experience is that the exp is definately slower, and is not based around solo fighting. Anyone that tells you that they macroed there way in 100 hrs to jedi or did nonstop rancors in 100 hrs is hiding the truth.The way to padawan is slow and tedious, any of the tricks I have read have not worked.


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bisha
Fri May 27, 2005 12:56 am
#20






Kuval wrote:


I didn't see a post like this before... and its probably going to be bumpped off the front page before anyone looks twice at it, but I'm sure someone out there will be thankful that I made some calculations they either didn't know how to make, or didn't want to.


It takes 220,500,000 weapons exp to gain 7,350,000 (30:1 ratio)reflexes or combat FSexp *which works out to 6 branches worth boxes 1 through 4.* This assumes all 6 branches will be in the combat or reflexes sections.


This seems sad... but you get an up side!!! You really only need 3,675,000 FS xp, if you change combat exp at the same time!!! . If you trade in combat exp at the same time as weapons exp you will gain the exact same amount of force exp, thus my conclusion.


Each trip out to the village, you should make when you cap 2 different (or 3 if you're really smart) weapon exp types. For ranged professions *the majority of us* the cap is now 1.2million exp. It used to be 900k, so there is a 300k difference... *1/3, very significant*. I hear non-ranged professions cap out at 1.5mill so... feel free to check it... but to my knowledge 1.2mill is the max for them. You gain 1/10th of combat exp per ranged exp. Thus, per 1.2mill, you will gain 120k combat exp. It is my recommendation you take up 2 different types of ranged weapons xp to gain the most possible from your character. I have taken pistols and carbines. This will enable you to gain 2.4million weapons exp, and 240k combat exp (the cap for combat exp is 300k... so you're almost there anyways).


This means you will obtain 160,000 FS exp per run to the village


All in all, not including the exp required to unlock thetree (ie: Combat Prowess), you should have roughly 46 trips to the village of capped exp. 45.9375 is the actual calculated number... so... lets round up to 50, and say not more than 50 trips to finish off your Jedi slot. Now the run to and from the village takes 30 minutes (to go both ways)so... you have 50 x 30minutes = 1500minutes which ends up being 25 hours in pure running around on your speeder bike alone. It is said to take 40 minutes to cap 1 exp branch *like pistols exp*, so to do 2 would be 80 minutes... 50 x 80minutes = 67 hours. This end total is 92 hours after getting glowy and everything... Thats not a lot... it sounds like it is, but for a game... its really not. This also includes no downtime... so its probably going to be about 130 hours. You could do it in a month. For myself... I'm just handing in scout exp and medic xp at the same time I go to hand in my carbines exp... so it will be a few less trips for myself... I'm sure theres other guides out there, but I think this ones the first one to kinda go through how long its going to take you... any questions or comments toss me a reply, thanks for reading.


-Kuval


*edit was to fix a couple typo's*

Message Edited by Kuval on 05-26-2005 11:52 AM





thank you very much for needed advice, should i drop BH for carbines? or rifles?



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Jedi_Leader
Fri May 27, 2005 2:50 am
#21


I did my xp a long time ago just waiting to finish out the 18 weeks but combat xp isnt capped at 300k no more i gained upto about 800k combat xp in first few days after cu without even trying think i got the xp from mydrill caves doing quest killing them urinso'urs


I dont remember if i reached 800+ cant go ingame to check but ill comment later.



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Doc_Rocker
Fri May 27, 2005 4:18 am
#22

DOH

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Fri May 27, 2005 4:22 am
#23

GRRRRR.... my clickies never work first time
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Eleutherios
Fri May 27, 2005 11:39 am
#24

If you're a BH, you get 1:1 conversion. I'll be making good use of this one during double XP week.



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Coreceren
Fri May 27, 2005 1:38 pm
#25

I do between 6.8 and 7.1k a kill, cap my rifle at 1.2M and then my pistols and carbs at 900k before I make a village trip. That extra 10% or whatever from entertainers should not be underestimated - when you have hundreds of millions of xp to do, it adds up to a few hours saved.


Although, pshaw, double-xp is on, so you could prolly grind out all the quests you have and then cap fsxp (does it cap? at what?) if you got a serious grind on this weekend.






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Kuval
Fri May 27, 2005 5:29 pm
#26

I'll find out in a little bit if it caps... I'm going to get enuf xp for 3 branches of reflexes... then I'm going to post my 3.675mill listing... and laugh and cackle with desire or something sexy like that... woot woot



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