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Thread: 180:1 with the new change?

CaptainAshcart
Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:53 am
#14
grenade grinding went out the window with the CU...that is now an old argument and is now a moot point. you go out and try that now...take a crate of grenades and go out to a quanker layer and toss a couple or gurk layer. you will find ourself overwhelmed and cloning. blaming grenade grinders for the 30 to 1 conversion is sad. it is SOE that you need to turn your hostility toward. they could have changed the ration before the CU and that would have solved the grenade grinders. this is a way to slow down the suspected growth of jedi in game. yes i have seen jedi all over the place but i must say that i see more rifleman and BHs then i have ever seen.



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jedi_knight24
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:46 am
#15
Hmm, i dont mind grinding, at 30:1 weapons xp and combat xp its ok for me. Not that hard, i like it this way, i'll be Jedi, its meant to be hard.

But, please, devs, dont do weapons xp 180:1 or like 300:1.....grinding wont be hard then, it will be nearly impossible, 1,2 milliion weapons xp for just 4000 FS xp ...??? that would really be awfull ...please devs, i love this game, dont make me cancell my subscription, plz



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SioBabble
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:50 am
#16




Mullet-MAN wrote:
Hard and time consuming and boring are not the same thing.





Very well stated.


You have to remember that the only thing SOE/LA management cares about is money. Yours. As in extracting it from your bank account for as long as they can.




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jedi_knight24
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:54 am
#17
Yeah, but with 180/300 :1 weapons xp they wont do that to me....now grinding is time consuming, and not boring...then it will be boring



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Bekan
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:55 am
#18




Bountyzhunter wrote:

Its actually going to be closer to 300:1 in reality. Also, keep in mind that many people will quit over this (myself included), so there will be alot less people to group with as well. The groups themselves will be of much lower quality as well. So basically, it will be impossible to be anything other than a standard profession unless you want to devote about 3 years worth of solid grinding, and I am just not going to do that. 3 months worth of grinding? yeah thats fine, anything longer than that...completley, and totally stupid.



Good. We won't have to read you anymore, right?



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thebunny0904
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:24 am
#19




SioBabble wrote:





Mullet-MAN wrote:
Hard and time consuming and boring are not the same thing.





Very well stated.


You have to remember that the only thing SOE/LA management cares about is money. Yours. As in extracting it from your bank account for as long as they can.




I'm interested to see how much this will affect the population. Think about it... SOE uses Jedi as advertising to try to get new subscribers. As soon as they realize that it will take them years to even unlock Jedi, how many of them (that are already complaining about a long grind) will stick around? I'm sure they'll get an influx of new subscribers to replace at least some of the ones that cancel, but something eventually has to give. I'm not one of those "the sky is falling" people, but if they keep this type of thing up, I think we're going to see a lot more cancelled accounts than new ones. I know SOE is a business, but any good business knows that return customers are much better than new ones, and keeping your customers happy enough to keep coming back is priority #1. I don't see SOE doing much to accomplish either one of these objectives.


I think SOE fell into the trap of assuming that the Star Wars license would be enough to keep people playing. And it's worked for the most part - to be honest, if this was any other universe, I would have quit long ago. If they don't start making positive changes, I really think SWG is in a lot of trouble. Which is sad, because this is the game that I most anticipated being released, and the game that I have spent the most hours playing of any in my life.


I just hope Middle Earth Online doesn't fall into the same trap...
JakinIrali
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:25 am
#20
So did this thing actually go live or not?



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Everitt_Cage
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:29 am
#21

Yes, its live, but guess what? You get just as much xp now as you did before, as long as you have an insp buff. Allow me to explain:


As a Jedi, I usualy get about 1/6 of what "normal" proffs get for killing an animal. If a pistoleer killed a bol in a group, he would get about 6k pistol xp, or something, while I get 1k jedi xp for killing it. Anyway, after pub 22, w/ an insp buff, 2day i got 97 xp + 1066insp bonus, which means I get the same xp as before, its only worded differently. And that means, this whole thread was... pointless.



JakinIrali
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:31 am
#22




Everitt_Cage wrote:

Yes, its live, but guess what? You get just as much xp now as you did before, as long as you have an insp buff. Allow me to explain:


As a Jedi, I usualy get about 1/6 of what "normal" proffs get for killing an animal. If a pistoleer killed a bol in a group, he would get about 6k pistol xp, or something, while I get 1k jedi xp for killing it. Anyway, after pub 22, w/ an insp buff, 2day i got 97 xp + 1066insp bonus, which means I get the same xp as before, its only worded differently. And that means, this whole thread was... pointless.






Why do I get the scary feeling though that the scenario you're describing is a bug of some sort and that's not how SOE really intends for it to work? *gulp*



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Orfen_135
Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:10 am
#23
LOL! Great, just great, I'll have to see what happened to group xp later... but SWG2? how would they do that? I couldn't see THAT happen...

And, if this is some big Inspiration buff thing, it's probably just to make ents more used in the game again...

Message Edited by Orfen_135 on 08-16-2005 11:11 AM



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JakinIrali
Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:58 am
#24




Orfen_135 wrote:

LOL! Great, just great, I'll have to see what happened to group xp later... but SWG2? how would they do that? I couldn't see THAT happen...

And, if this is some big Inspiration buff thing, it's probably just to make ents more used in the game again...

Message Edited by Orfen_135 on 08-16-2005 11:11 AM



One can hope that's all this is...



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Sirisandir
Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:34 am
#25
They're not changing the conversion ratio...just "thinking" about splitting up the exp earned (for those who mis-interpreted the OP)



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Mullet-MAN
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:49 pm
#26




MrPat wrote:




Mullet-MAN wrote:





quitch wrote:
AS OF NOW, THIS ISNT HAPPENING. YOU ARE GOING ON OLD FACTS





Hey MR. caps man this is going from the release notes on testing 8/15. This also was put in on the test of publish 19 or 20 then revoked due to people being pissed off about it. Then they didn't say anything and did a big combat xp nerf. Now the original nerf is back, as if nothing has happened trying to pull the same crap.


On another note regrinding templates (not that you ever would cause nothing ever gets nerfed in this game) should be made easier like if you have mastered pistoleer next time the boxes should cost you .5 the original or something like the way it is done for space. I fkn hate grinding







First off ... they said that the group xp change was postponed. So stop bitching that they did not say anything about it.

If u hate sooooo much grinding, don't even dare to go Jedi, coz u'll whine ever more.




Postponed ..yes that was a while ago. What I was talking about was new as of yesterday, turned out to be an issue with the XP message.


Do the devs change things not listed in the notes? ....(stop wondering, I will answer it for you. Yes. Yes they do. Um combat xp last patch, possibly XP requierments for BH today (need to verify))


In my post I say I am already done with the village.. so I have a jedi. Infact I almost have 2


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