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I feel very sorry for you, you have an extremly limited veiw of Star Wars! There was a well thought out well written post on what Star Wars was.I wish I had saved the URL to it. It basically broke down what the author of the post thought of SW and what all it encompased. I understand many like jedi and that to them is the end all be all of the SW universe but they fail to understand that many see far more to the SWU than the jedi. Your comaprrison to WoW and EQ are laughable at best. I think you should read more of the books, look closer at the movies and discover a whole galaxy of content beyond jedi.

And in which movie was there not a Jedi involved in some way or another? I think my working outside all day in triple digit heat has finally gotten the better of me. So with that said *poof* my computer is off I'm going to grab a beer and have some real life fun with my friends.

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Naaga wrote:

imagine star wars with no jedi. What will you have?

Thats how you know jedi is the main focus.

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ktanner3 wrote:

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Naaga wrote:

imagine star wars with no jedi. What will you have?

Thats how you know jedi is the main focus.

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Imagine star wars without Han Solo,Chewbacca,Boba Fett,Jabba the Hutt, etc.....

Jedi are nice,but they are not the be all end end all of star wars. Most people consider the original trilogy the best and it has little to do with the jedi.You have all of one lightsaber battle in each of them and the rest of the fight scenes are stormtroopers vs. rebels or bounty hunter vs smuggler.

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The original trilogy has everything to do with Jedi. A major plot line --arguably "the" major plot line --is one person's journey of discovery and learning, leading to the re-invigoration of the Jedi ideologies and ideals,and the shifting of the balance of the Force in the galaxy back towards the Light side. Big laser battles are just fluff, the action icing on the plot cake, sorry.

You guys make me laugh. Star wars is all about Jedi. To say that it is not is like say the hobbits were not important in Lord of the Rings.The first three books were about Anakintrials in becoming a Jedi and how the dark side turned him. The next three books are about Luke(Anakin's kids)andhis path to become a Jedi. The next three books areabout Leia andHan Solo's kids,withLuke opening up the Jedi academy only to be turned to the dark side like his father. Yes, do the books talk about other creatures and things. Yes, but the Jedi is the main focus of the books. If they were not then the main characters would not have been Jedi and the supporting cast would not have been Bounty hunters and Smugglers.

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wpetko wrote:
You guys make me laugh. Star wars is all about Jedi. To say that it is not is like say the hobbits were not important in Lord of the Rings.The first three books were about Anakintrials in becoming a Jedi and how the dark side turned him. The next three books are about Luke(Anakin's kids)andhis path to become a Jedi. The next three books areabout Leia andHan Solo's kids,withLuke opening up the Jedi academy only to be turned to the dark side like his father. Yes, do the books talk about other creatures and things. Yes, but the Jedi is the main focus of the books. If they were not then the main characters would not have been Jedi and the supporting cast would not have been Bounty hunters and Smugglers.

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There is more to Star Wars than Jedi. Jedi are a small part of a much larger universe. So no, Star Wars is not all about Jedi.

If you take Luke out of the OT, the films still would have been good. Maybe not AS good, but still good.

Take out everyone who is not a Jedi though, and Star Wars would have sucked, royally. There is no denying that. If it was all about Jedi, the films wouldnt be half of what they are.

they're all equally important. if u take either out, it just wouldnt be the same. the movies would be mediocre at best, but since they incompassed all sides, star wars is a great genre.

ok here we go.... Star Wars is all about the jedi, no matter what people say it is. Of course there are others in the series but think about it... Indiana Jones, the movie was about Indie saving the world from the nazi, now if the nazi's wernt there then the movie would have no real background or plot it would just be some guy running from a boulder for 2 hours. But that dosnt mean the story is not about Indie, because... well it is. Same with the Star Wars Universe. Jedi are the main part, the force is the big thing in the star wars universe and jedi are the main ones who know, use, and wield it. Now without the Bounty Hunters, Smugglers, Hutts, Twi's, Dosh, Wookies, Rebels, Imps, etc. the story wouldnt be valid as they do make up the rest of the story. BUT without the jedi, star wars would not exist. Anyone get what im sayin? ya pickin up what im puttin down?

I think the point is that there are many thousands of other stories that could be told inside the framework of the Star Wars Universe. It has considerable depth, and the story doesn't need to focus on Jedi solely.

Obviously for many people it does, Jedi and Sith have a strong emotional appeal, mixing the mysterious and noble together admirably. The original trilogy, or at least the first movie were heavily based on the writings of Joseph Campbell with regards to the Hero Myth througout human cultures, and thus the story is terrifically heroic and has an appeal to our subconscious minds using common archetypes (the wise old man who teaches the young hero, the hero poised on a threshhold that he must personally cross and become a changed and more powerful person as a result, the battle against one's self, one's fears etc). Thats why the stories work for us as movies. Campbell consulted on the first movie.

But it doesn't mean that thats the *only* story that can be told against the SWU backdrop by any stretch of the imagination. If you put your mind to it you can tell many stories - or in MMO terms, develop many characters each with their own unique take on living, learning and dying in the SWU. Many people have done so, and their frustration at having the number of Jedi present (and the obnoxious behaviour of those Jedi) disrupt the continuity of that story backdrop is evident. Many people don't see past the Jedi or care to look for anything past them, and thats fine, but its a limited viewpoint. I have no interest in playing a Jedi at this point in time, but I have had endless enjoyment engaging in other activities. Being yet another FOTM Jedi is completely uninteresting and I know I would delete the character if I made one, or at least stop playing it in a week or so. I am not alone.

My objection to the Jedi in game is not their presence, not their numbers, but their visibility. If 50,000 people want to play Jedi on my server, more power to them - AS LONG AS I DON'T SEE THEM. If SOE can devise changes to the game that make Jedi characters have to be cautious in public places (as they do in the movies) then they can be free to play however they want in all the rest of the game, found their own Jedi cities whatever. I just object to the flashlight waving juvenile trashtalkers that inhabit every starport like Hari Krishnas on crack...

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UTech wrote:

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ktanner3 wrote:

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Naaga wrote:

imagine star wars with no jedi. What will you have?

Thats how you know jedi is the main focus.

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Imagine star wars without Han Solo,Chewbacca,Boba Fett,Jabba the Hutt, etc.....

Jedi are nice,but they are not the be all end end all of star wars. Most people consider the original trilogy the best and it has little to do with the jedi.You have all of one lightsaber battle in each of them and the rest of the fight scenes are stormtroopers vs. rebels or bounty hunter vs smuggler.

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The original trilogy has everything to do with Jedi. A major plot line --arguably "the" major plot line --is one person's journey of discovery and learning, leading to the re-invigoration of the Jedi ideologies and ideals,and the shifting of the balance of the Force in the galaxy back towards the Light side. Big laser battles are just fluff, the action icing on the plot cake, sorry.

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The major plotline was the rebel alliance overthrowing the empire.Period.How many jedi were fighting for the rebellion? Two. And one wasn't a jedi until the last movie. Sorry.But when I think of the original trilogy it isn't the jedi code or any of that stuff.We didn't even learn how this stuff works until the prequals came out.There was no jedi council,no midochlorians talk,no mass batles with jedi,so lets stop confusing this with the prequals.

Message Edited by ktanner3 on 08-30-2005 02:36 PM