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Thread: The only hard part of becoming a Jedi is Defense v. Boredom

Coltan2003
Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:22 pm
#14

But what is the alternative to grinding, I am not sure even the devs have an answer to that one. I played EQ for 3 years as well as many other MOGs and the only way they seem to be able to make people play for years, and thus get you to pay that monthly fee, to keep their jobs, is long periods of grinding.
Onari
Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:49 pm
#15



Mrkalador wrote:

Shensen wrote:


Mrkalador wrote:
But no where does it say "to become a jedi & train as a jedi, you must stare blankly at your screen & grind the same $hit, day in, day out"

it's the people that choose to do it this way, if you just played the game, IE, went out with freinds, did quests, then you are not grinding, but still getting the rewards, just at a slower pace.

You choose the path, how you walk it, is up to you.



I do aggree with things not being challenging, I mayself have been playing FFXI since the N/A launch, & to get things done in that game IT IS INSANE how hard some things are, 8 hours+ to get 3 items just so you can get to the next level, challenging, yes, exciting? far from it, I took my time making my temp, & it still isn't finished, yes the theme parks are not hard, just time consuming, & there is zero depth in the path to jedi, But a path, it still is.


I like things the way they are, except buffs, did you try all the theme parks & grinding unbuffed? well there is your challenge right there, The players have become stronger then the enviorment, i imagine the CU intends to change this.


I choose to walk & explore the path, not head in at 1000mph with tunnel vision, My grind has not become dull or boring or difficult at all, Actually, I'm enjoying it, Alot.


Not a flame - just curiosity really. How exactly do you go out with friends, do quests, etc. without gaining visibility? I see Jedi being the most boring simply because anything worthwhile to do in game as far as quests go will give you visibility - not to mention in order to get glowy in the first place most quests are done already. Hanging with friends hunting brings up visibility too. So if you are playing along with the timeline and trying to remain hidden to avoid the wrath of the Empire...what is left to do but grind?

I like the idea that Jedi doesn't have to be a grind, but I don't see it being feasible without dodging BHs every step of the game. One thing that really bugged me was that I wanted to experience the content of the game at my own leisure and space it out so there would be something fun to do when I didn't feel like hunting or crafting, but the whole FS thing basically forced you through all of it at once. Ok, yeah no one held a blaster to my head and said do it all at once, but c'mon if you wanted your jedi as soon as possible then that's what you had to do. RPing a Jedi could be a lot of fun, but really what can you roleplay? Today I'm hiding....tomorrow I'm hiding....no one can know I'm a Jedi....ok that gets a little old. I can get creative of course, but truly RPing a jedi now is all about remaining unknown. Ok I think I'm rambling now, so what I'm really getting at is what is there to do with your jedi other than grind since the object is not to gain visibility?







Well, I was talking about the FS grind when i said hunt with freinds, I can't speak for the Jedi grind because i am not a Jedi.


But, Visibility is part of jedi, you should accept this before you even begin your FS grind, If you want to hunt with freinds, do it, but you will have to defend yourself sooner or later.

RP? what is a better RP situation than defending yourself from attack, Knowing you are hunted, & out smarting your hunter each step of the way.


So when you become a knight, you will still fear Vis, everyone can quote me here, Vis excites me, I like the idea, if i get on the terms, thats my problem, if i am defeated by a BH, or by many BH, again, my problem, it's up to me to learn from that & be more prepared next time.


There are pro's & cons to everything, we could discuss it all day, I choose not too, Because this is a game, & i find fun in every aspect of it, After all, that is what games are about.


I want be hunted, I want to hide, & i want to fight when the time comes, I have no freinds in this game, so it easy for me to become a Ghost, I imagine it is different for those of you with close freinds, But we all know the penalty for Vis, But it's finding fun in that penalty, that will be more beneficial in the end


May the force be with you, All of you.


PS. Thank you for your imput, Most interesting!




Mrkalador the problem is that you havent gone through the jedi grind, so your thoughts might change once you get locked into it.

At the moment I havent played very long but when I do the village thing Im not going to grind all the FS like some do, I will be searching for items and trying to get a bit of cash aswell as messing about in space. Hopefully by the time I become a padawan I will be fresh so I wont be as burnt out. Also I will always have an alt to play with to hunt with guildies and such.

This thread has come up with some interesting points though



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Noguts
Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:10 pm
#16

Hopefully in the next few add ons/patches they will making the path to jedi more interesting.
Mrkalador
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:08 am
#17

If you love Jedi, truely love it, then playing each day should be a joy, not a task, Death, is just a lesson, I play games were you spend hours & hours tying to level up, when you finally do, you die twice & loose all those hours you put in, level down, boo hoo, shouldn't have died, I have fun getting there, & i have fun getting it back, whether it be novice sabers or master sabers, it's a game, Jedi are hunted, that itself is an abundance of fun, if your willing to take it that way, Jedi get negative exp through death, well, Don't die, if you do, boo hoo, you had fun getting there, you will have fun getting there again.


Maybe my attitude is different, I'm speaking from similar experiences with other games, i am not jedi, so i can't quote from my own experience with it, But my attitude always finds fun in any game, good or bad, otherwise, i simply wouldn't play.



~Kaylum Keitaro~
~Teräs Käsi Master~

Duskya
Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:19 am
#18


village is easy, the jedi grind is a b!atch i now got 1.6mill to go and i get 200k in a buff



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Noguts
Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:51 am
#19

Too prove my point, in 3 weeks i went from no glow to having 2 completed trees and 4 other trees of FS xp banked...now i get to sit around for 11 weeks waiting.
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