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Thread: will this template still give me CL80?
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isradrossk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:19 pm
#1
TKM -pikeman 0/1/4/0 - swordsman - x/1/4/x - doc 4/0/0/0
I want some healing along with another weapon to cap
Cinomed
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:27 pm
#2
bloodfin.org temp builder says CL 74 with that build and 3 skill points left...
You might consider TKM, Master Swords, and Doc 4000, dunno exactly what you wanted from pikes.
isradrossk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:32 pm
#3
right now i am master pikes, tkm, and doc 4xxx. I want the xp from pikes as well as swords and I also want the pike aoe.
Cinomed
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:48 pm
#4
Checkout the temp builder on bloodfin.org
But after playing with it a bit myself, I can't see an easy CL80 with TKM and Doc 4000, AND 2 more weapon maxes.
isradrossk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:57 pm
#5
cool thank you. i have the template builder but i dont see where it shows a cl. ah well. thanks for the info. I guess i will try something else then.
GunrockPro
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:41 am
#7
isradrossk wrote:
cool thank you. i have the template builder but i dont see where it shows a cl. ah well. thanks for the info. I guess i will try something else then.
If you have the old version it doesn't show the CL, make sure you have the newer version
BrenStarslagger
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:39 am
#8
isradrossk wrote:
TKM -pikeman 0/1/4/0 - swordsman - x/1/4/x - doc 4/0/0/0
I want some healing along with another weapon to cap
The problem with this temp, apart from not giving you cl80, is it requires all 4 branches of Brawler, which IMO is a waste. Why dont you drop Pikes all together and use the extra skill points in Fencer, then you dont need the xxx4 branch of brawler and will have an extra 14 Skill points.
Im a TKM/MFencer/Doc4xxx at the moment and have to admit I dont like Fencer much, I used to be MSwords and miss the damage and armourbrake. So I am going for a mix, Im keeping MTK/Doc 4xxx for innate armour, COB and heals. x43x Swords will give advanced head hit (High damage special), sword Flurry (Increases defence for limited time) and armourBrake (Increases damage done). Then I'll take Fencer xxx4 for advanced binding strike (Reduces oppontents action regeneration) leaving me with 15 skill points which I will probably use in Fencer as I will use a one-handed weapon - the Nyenthi’Oris Blade which is better than pretty much all other Melee weapons apart from a good power hammer which are hard to find, expensive and require MSwords.
This temp, provided I use the remaining 15 points to fill another branch of Fencer, will give me cl80 and allow me to max out xp in TK, Swords and Fencer, as well as medical xp!
UTech
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:10 am
#9
Just beware it's almost always 1 CL too high in it's calculation.
GunrockPro wrote:
isradrossk wrote:
cool thank you. i have the template builder but i dont see where it shows a cl. ah well. thanks for the info. I guess i will try something else then.
If you have the old version it doesn't show the CL, make sure you have the newer version
RubicksCube
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:12 pm
#10
Really? thats odd, you'd think they would fix that
UTech wrote:
Just beware it's almost always 1 CL too high in it's calculation.
GunrockPro wrote:
isradrossk wrote:
cool thank you. i have the template builder but i dont see where it shows a cl. ah well. thanks for the info. I guess i will try something else then.
If you have the old version it doesn't show the CL, make sure you have the newer version
Jaadenn
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:33 pm
#11
BrenStarslagger wrote:
isradrossk wrote:
TKM -pikeman 0/1/4/0 - swordsman - x/1/4/x - doc 4/0/0/0
I want some healing along with another weapon to cap
The problem with this temp, apart from not giving you cl80, is it requires all 4 branches of Brawler, which IMO is a waste. Why dont you drop Pikes all together and use the extra skill points in Fencer, then you dont need the xxx4 branch of brawler and will have an extra 14 Skill points.
Im a TKM/MFencer/Doc4xxx at the moment and have to admit I dont like Fencer much, I used to be MSwords and miss the damage and armourbrake. So I am going for a mix, Im keeping MTK/Doc 4xxx for innate armour, COB and heals. x43x Swords will give advanced head hit (High damage special), sword Flurry (Increases defence for limited time) and armourBrake (Increases damage done). Then I'll take Fencer xxx4 for advanced binding strike (Reduces oppontents action regeneration) leaving me with 15 skill points which I will probably use in Fencer as I will use a one-handed weapon - the Nyenthi’Oris Blade which is better than pretty much all other Melee weapons apart from a good power hammer which are hard to find, expensive and require MSwords.
This temp, provided I use the remaining 15 points to fill another branch of Fencer, will give me cl80 and allow me to max out xp in TK, Swords and Fencer, as well as medical xp!
thing is pikes is the best temp for the FS grind which im assuming he wants to do since he's posting on the FS Forums, Spin attack makes life a lot easier.
BrenStarslagger
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:47 am
#13
Jaadenn wrote:
BrenStarslagger wrote:
isradrossk wrote:
TKM -pikeman 0/1/4/0 - swordsman - x/1/4/x - doc 4/0/0/0
I want some healing along with another weapon to cap
The problem with this temp, apart from not giving you cl80, is it requires all 4 branches of Brawler, which IMO is a waste. Why dont you drop Pikes all together and use the extra skill points in Fencer, then you dont need the xxx4 branch of brawler and will have an extra 14 Skill points.
Im a TKM/MFencer/Doc4xxx at the moment and have to admit I dont like Fencer much, I used to be MSwords and miss the damage and armourbrake. So I am going for a mix, Im keeping MTK/Doc 4xxx for innate armour, COB and heals. x43x Swords will give advanced head hit (High damage special), sword Flurry (Increases defence for limited time) and armourBrake (Increases damage done). Then I'll take Fencer xxx4 for advanced binding strike (Reduces oppontents action regeneration) leaving me with 15 skill points which I will probably use in Fencer as I will use a one-handed weapon - the Nyenthi’Oris Blade which is better than pretty much all other Melee weapons apart from a good power hammer which are hard to find, expensive and require MSwords.
This temp, provided I use the remaining 15 points to fill another branch of Fencer, will give me cl80 and allow me to max out xp in TK, Swords and Fencer, as well as medical xp!
thing is pikes is the best temp for the FS grind which im assuming he wants to do since he's posting on the FS Forums, Spin attack makes life a lot easier.
Yes Spin attack will make things a little easier, allowing him to hit everything in range and therefore gain the xp from everything he hits once they go down. However, if he isnt cl80 he wont get as much XP per kill and will therefore have to kill more nests to get the same XP, so it may be easier but will take longer. He will also struggle to handle the agro from all the extra MOBs he attracts using the Spin attack asuming they are cl80 and above and he isn't. It will take him longer to kill each MOB at a lower level and with the lower damage done by that template, yes he may be in a group of other cl80s but overall his lower damage output will slow the whole group down.
Like I said above spin attacks make it a little easier but only a little. All he needs to do is use Improved area taunt (With his temp he will only have normal area taunt which doesn't work as well) then while tanking the MOBS he attracts tab through each one at a time inflicting a single hit on each. You might say this takes more time than the spin attack but once you have used the spin attack once you still need to finsh them off so it doesn't take any more time, in fact with your higher damage output it will take less time.
PS Whats with the big green letters?
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