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Thread: A little question about force crystals.

Dodece
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:08 pm
#1

Well I finally decided to clear out my treasure trove, and have nine force crystals eating up far too much space. Sadly nobody wants to buy a crystal on the forums unless it has been checked by a jedi for its condition.


I know I need a jedi for this what I would like to know though is what are considered good stats for a crystal to have. Any help would be hot.
TXwarrior
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:19 pm
#2


Good post. I was about to post the same question.


I have about 10 of the things myself.

Message Edited by TXwarrior on 11-23-2004 03:30 PM



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wickedHangover
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:30 pm
#3

color crystals just need to have high condition, since they don't do anything but look pretty until you killed it down to 0/xxx


damage crystals don't have stats. They just come in quality ratings, like "poor, good, quality, premium, flawless" probably some others i missed.


Tuning crystals is kind of wierd,tuning is when you take yourcrystal's quality nameand turn it into an actual number. The problem, or not a problem depending, is that if you have a premium crystal and a quality crystal, both could tune to the same (good or bad)stats. So all the hard work you spent killing a nightsister elder could actually lead you to a premium crystal with worse stats than the quality one you killed a Janta for.


But all that aside, check your server for what the pricing is on the different qualities. Premium usually seem to be in the 1 mil range, quality in the 500-1mil range, and down from there. Poor crystals are great for grinding low level lightsaber since even a perfectly tuned flawless crystal will give you such a small bonus its not worth wasting it.





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TXwarrior
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:42 pm
#4


Ok, so we cannot judge the quality by the condition? I have 2 with conditions of 1200 or more. interesting.



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Lightdinare
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:50 pm
#5

I Think it was supposed to lower the price on them.If you can't see stats they shouldn't go for a high number.Not to mention like someone said you can get a good crystal and the jedi will get a very low tune,which if you spent a bit of creds on the thing it would not be worth the money.



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Bertywoowoo
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:29 pm
#6

as it stands now all power crystals tune with the same chances....so actually.....poor, fair, good, quality, select, premium, flawless are no difference. sadly



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TXwarrior
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:32 pm
#7


Really. Hmmmmm. Good info.



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Dodece
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:40 pm
#8

Still kind of confused lets see if I am following this right. To start off with a crystals condition is important the higher the better. Then the crystal must be viewed by a jedi, and it will get a named state poor good flawless. Then the jedi must tune the crystal. Which can bone a flawless crystal. So If I ask a jedi to examine my crystals he can give me the word condition on it, but only when a crystal gets tuned will its value will be set.


Am I on the mark with this or am I missing something.
TigerJedi01
Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:19 pm
#9

color crystals: change the color of the lightsaber, these already have a condition on them, ie XXX/XXX


power crystals: these have the flawless, poor, quality etc ratings i believe these are examined by jedi to recieve these ratings. these are then tuned and in tunning they can still become crap crystals....or great crystals regardless of the quality.


i think this is how it works. can i get a confirmation




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Dodece
Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:26 pm
#10

Well I have seen hundreds of crystals, and not one named a damage crystal. If there are damage crystals out there that should mean they are worth massive sums right. Seeing as I have never seen a damage crystal. If color crystals are worth next to squat I should remove them from my auction and destroy them right now. So I can free up nine spaces in my storage.
wickedHangover
Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:33 pm
#11






TigerJedi01 wrote:

color crystals: change the color of the lightsaber, these already have a condition on them, ie XXX/XXX


power crystals: these have the flawless, poor, quality etc ratings i believe these are examined by jedi to recieve these ratings. these are then tuned and in tunning they can still become crap crystals....or great crystals regardless of the quality.


i think this is how it works. can i get a confirmation







in a nutshell, yes. A poor crystal will never tune to the same as a premium crystal. I should have said this above.


I used the example of the quality crystal and the premium since these are both capable of tuning to the same stats.


Three things to note:


1) The best stats you can tune are -10 force (kind of like ham on weapons)and +50 damage (literally applied to the max damage of your saber). I've never tuned a flawless but assume that it is still a risk. I've never tuned a poor crystal better than -2 force and +10 damage. Given this range, you can see my point that making your first generation sabers, which only hold 1 damage crystal, with uber crystals is really a waste.


2) Condition of crystals will have nothing to do with quality. Higher is better, so if you have a premium crystal that is 700 condition versus a premium that is 1400 condition, yes the latter is much better. But if you cannot view the quality rating of the crystal, you CANNOT assume that since the condition is only 700 that it is junk. I have a premium that has a condition of 650 and a poor with condition of 1400. You will learn that being a jedi will mean having backpacks of crystals in a house that are sorted for various needs, PvP crystals, grind crystals, etc.


3) Once you tune a crystal, only you can use it. This is important. My alt is a force crystal hunter, that's just about all I do and i try to gather crystals and trade up. It's tedious busy work that makes the game fun while you're waiting for your visiblity to decrease. But the important thing is that you should tune and then use as needed. Don't take your batch of damage crystals you've been saving up and tune every one. There's also theories about having 0 battle fatigue, no wounds and basically being in the best condition physically when tuning to get better results. I disagree with this but superstition is half of being a jedi, the other half is knowing when to hit burst run, target closest speeder bike and saber toss.


hope this clears some stuff up.






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TigerJedi01
Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:33 pm
#12

i wouldnt destroy them. people will still buy them, especially jedi they need htem to make there glowsticks look all pretty




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DevAracc
Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:34 pm
#13

Colored crystals affect color of saber only. "Damage" crystals are white. Once tuned they become worthless to anyone but the Jedi who tuned them. So sell white crystals at a higher rate than colored ones.
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