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Thread: Dealing damage with fencer
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Newap
Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:13 am
#1
Last night i duled a TKM/Mbrawler and was having the hardest time damaging him. We were both buffed butunarmored i was using a 350max gaffi and he was using a vk. The dual started out with us both applying intimidate 2 to each other after sticking intimidate 2 i landed dizzy then got a KD proceeded to One hand hit and body hit. Neither attack even made his bars blink white i hit him about 15 times before he stood up and had done no damage to him even though he was unarmored. SO we keep fighting both of us are intimidated he lands a KD i lay on the ground and watch my mind start to slowly tick down as he spams head hidts on me stand up pop a vercupti and kd him again.This time i try scatter hits on him, but still no results inimidate 2 and buffs completly negated any damage i could do to him. Im at about half mind now and im full having eaten 2 vercuptis a brandy and some mando wine and he just continues spamming head hit on me till i die. Keep in mind i was using cob and intimidate 2 on him. What irks me the most is not that i died quickly, wich wasnt really the case as it took him a while to bring my 5000 mind to nothing, it was more of the fact that intimidate 2 renders fencer USELESS. Using my best weapon and fighting an unarmored opponent i still couldnt do any real damage to him. How are we expected to do any damage to anyone with armor on we have a stun weapon but everyone uses psg's and stun armor. I know the first thing that happens to me in every fight is i get intimidate stuck on me and i do the same to any melee classes standing around me. I thinks its BS that sony cant balance these classes out. Ranged classes are all borked save rifleman and might as well just be aTKM melee because with all the states flying around you wont do any damage with fencer or youll never hit with sowrdsman and we can all just laugh at pike. They didnt think it was a bad idea to have it set up to where a buffed person with one special could render an entire class useless?
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:48 am
#2
Unarmed Toughness+62and a synthisteak is the answer....taking down a tka needs some sword-steal(scythe) and headhit3....
Newap wrote:
Last night i duled a TKM/Mbrawler and was having the hardest time damaging him. We were both buffed butunarmored i was using a 350max gaffi and he was using a vk. The dual started out with us both applying intimidate 2 to each other after sticking intimidate 2 i landed dizzy then got a KD proceeded to One hand hit and body hit. Neither attack even made his bars blink white i hit him about 15 times before he stood up and had done no damage to him even though he was unarmored. SO we keep fighting both of us are intimidated he lands a KD i lay on the ground and watch my mind start to slowly tick down as he spams head hidts on me stand up pop a vercupti and kd him again.This time i try scatter hits on him, but still no results inimidate 2 and buffs completly negated any damage i could do to him. Im at about half mind now and im full having eaten 2 vercuptis a brandy and some mando wine and he just continues spamming head hit on me till i die. Keep in mind i was using cob and intimidate 2 on him. What irks me the most is not that i died quickly, wich wasnt really the case as it took him a while to bring my 5000 mind to nothing, it was more of the fact that intimidate 2 renders fencer USELESS. Using my best weapon and fighting an unarmored opponent i still couldnt do any real damage to him. How are we expected to do any damage to anyone with armor on we have a stun weapon but everyone uses psg's and stun armor. I know the first thing that happens to me in every fight is i get intimidate stuck on me and i do the same to any melee classes standing around me. I thinks its BS that sony cant balance these classes out. Ranged classes are all borked save rifleman and might as well just be aTKM melee because with all the states flying around you wont do any damage with fencer or youll never hit with sowrdsman and we can all just laugh at pike. They didnt think it was a bad idea to have it set up to where a buffed person with one special could render an entire class useless?
Newap
Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:03 am
#3
Theres to much armor, buff regen, damage mitegation, damage reducing specials, foods that reduce damage, 75 percent pvp reduction and everyone wonders why the classes that have low damage output are useless after all the reductions our output is less than the regen time on even a crappy buff. All the defences in the world only serve to delay your death if you cant deal out any damage that sticks. Atleast when scatter hit was broken there was a chance in hell that you might be able to out damage an opponets regenrate. I like fencer alot but with the combat revamp being delayed basically indefinitely im seriously considering droping pistoleer and fencer and grinding tkm and rifleman wow a thought i could be good in pvp and pve for once.
DarkShade9
Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:31 pm
#4
hehe, the answer is you cant damage a tkm with a fencer weapon when hes buffed and using intimidate/synthsteak. solution, pick up something that does damage him until fencer gets a bosst. I picked up carbineer, and with crippleshot at the speed cap with a 750 max laser carb, im dropping tkms in 3 hits, seriously (if there unarmoured and dont have ranged mit 
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Naruk_The_Wookiee
Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:56 am
#5
Newap wrote:
Theres to much armor, buff regen, damage mitegation, damage reducing specials, foods that reduce damage, 75 percent pvp reduction and everyone wonders why the classes that have low damage output are useless after all the reductions our output is less than the regen time on even a crappy buff. All the defences in the world only serve to delay your death if you cant deal out any damage that sticks. Atleast when scatter hit was broken there was a chance in hell that you might be able to out damage an opponets regenrate. I like fencer alot but with the combat revamp being delayed basically indefinitely im seriously considering droping pistoleer and fencer and grinding tkm and rifleman wow a thought i could be good in pvp and pve for once.
the only reason for me to stick with fencer is groupplay, defense-stats and hunting animals for harvesting...it´s very sad that a fencer isno more able to deal any damage in pvp...exept u have "uber-acklay-weapons-with-uberslice"...
caltex2006
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:46 am
#6
take this template, 4030 doc/ 0004 cm/ master fencer. Now watch poisons tick away at that tkm's mind, and you heal all of the states he puts on you, and see how much more damage you do.
Mythic_YCS
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:26 pm
#7
caltex2006 wrote:
take this template, 4030 doc/ 0004 cm/ master fencer. Now watch poisons tick away at that tkm's mind, and you heal all of the states he puts on you, and see how much more damage you do.
/agree... My template is similar... cm4004/doc2000/fencer... it works very very nicely
clonecenter-resident
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:38 pm
#8
Well, your first problem was this--you're CoB wasn't working because you're dodge wasn't working. If you doubt me ask around.
Second, you should have tried to switch weapons. I've noticed a bug recently where people seem to be wearing different color armor than they really are, or they are wearing full composite but it looks as if they aren't. He might have had armor on after all 
That's what it sounds like to me if his bars weren't even blinking, as you say.
Try using two vasarian brandy's with three vagnerian canapes and some muon to go with your mindbuffs next time and watch your mind become nearly untouchable. Seriously.
I don't know what this mando wine is that you're talking about, can someone tell me it's effects please?
But you have a point, it is hard to do damage as a fencer.
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