Fencer Archive

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Heimdall_Surtr wrote:

I know of the 125 speed cap thats about to be put on, but what do you think about the template of Fencer/Pistoleer both at master, and Rogue Smuggler? You get a delay which igve syou time to use dizzy and lunge to KD, or use lowblow and last ditch w/ a good genosian gun and kill your enemy.

My only concern is the rifleman, who are in great need of a nerf. I do belive that rifles should be fast... atleast the ones like the e11 rifle, which are more likea carbine... its kind of like a M16 whcih is an automatic weapon and therfore very fast... but the imbalance coems when someone fires a T21 ( think a sniper rifle, which are very slow ) w/ greater speed then the pistol...

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Only thing wrong with Rifleman is the melee bug although the speed is a little fast. I don't think they should be at a 3 second cap, but 1.5 might be good while pistol is at .5 and carbine is at 1.

And armor doesn't really help. IF you don't have stun layers they use Jawa Ion. If you do have stun layers than the rest of your armor will suck and they'll use T21 (at ap3 it rips through light armor).

I'm probably biased though(master fencer some rifleman, although I find rifles boring).

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Heimdall_Surtr wrote:

... but the imbalance coems when someone fires a T21 ( think a sniper rifle, which are very slow ) w/ greater speed then the pistol...

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Gustafus wrote:

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Heimdall_Surtr wrote:

... but the imbalance coems when someone fires a T21 ( think a sniper rifle, which are very slow ) w/ greater speed then the pistol...

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A common misperception is that riflemen are intended to be snipers (well, they do have a special called snipershot after all). Sniper rifles in RL are powerful and slow firing (at least accurately and if you don't want your shoulder to fall off). However, they are accurateto over 1000m. Due to the game's poor design, there is a 64m range limit.

As a result, riflemen should be looked upon more as machine gunners. Honestly, you can fire a M16 accurately a lot faster than a pistol because the stock allows your body to absorb most of the recoil.

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A machine gun is much more like a carbine. Rifles the way the game is balanced are designed to be slow firing and damagin.

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Heimdall_Surtr wrote:

A machine gun is much more like a carbine. Rifles the way the game is balanced are designed to be slow firing and damagin.

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Lol look at the speeds of the weapons, you can clearly see the plan the devs had, also the damages of each weapon reflect this aswell.

I think pretty much everyone agrees that it was meant to be:

rifles=slow speed, high damage
carbines= medium speed medium damamge
pistols= high speed, low damage.

But as far as riflemen go then don't work as intended, they just fire too fast.

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PigeonToedRancor wrote:

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Heimdall_Surtr wrote:

A machine gun is much more like a carbine. Rifles the way the game is balanced are designed to be slow firing and damagin.

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I don't know about that, Heimdall. I'd call a carbine a sub machine gun or an assault rifle-type of weapon.

The rifles in-game strike me as more of the M60 machine gun with just a little bit of the long guns thrown in (if you can call 64m 'long')

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125 is the DEFENSE MOD cap not a speed cap

its a badass template thats what i am now . With a geonosian sonic blaster (made by ws with krayt) and the stacked defense you cant lose although will stop the stacking d.