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Hi all ive just been testing dodge .

I have +105 dodge from fencer here is how the fight went when i was using a gaffi with cob activated.

Out of 21 attempts by a tka master I dodged 6 of them and was missed 3 times.

I have +60 dodge from pistoleer here is how the fight went when using a republic blaster.

Out of 20 attempts i dodged 0 attacks and was missed 11 times.

In conclusion i believe the dodge has been seperated but the fencer dodge is not broken as with the above data you can see it definatly works.

Juddy

I agree that is what your test results indicate. The only thing I would suggest is a larger sample. I have Dodged up to 15 times in a row, and then been hit 15 times in a row. The random number generator tends to be a random trend generator with highs and lows. I'd get at bare minimum of at least a 100 "hit" sample. Not 100 attacks, but 100 "non-misses". This will give you the Hit vs Dodge percentage which will tell you if your Dodge rate is different.

I sure appreciate you helping by doing this.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you for your time and effort.

The funny thing is that I was helping out a brand spanking new player the other night and he was using a CDEF pistol to hit the noob spawns. He was a wookie, and I actually noticed him dodging a fair amount. Even though his dodge value would be quite low, he also didn't have a lot of other possible evasions before the dodge chance came into play.

The whole thing is very confusing to me to say the least.

i will test with a larger sample but at the time only a few combatants were online and the others could nt connect the the tka was waiting for a shuttle. 50-100 hits would be a better size. ill go do that now.

Juddy

That's pretty good evidence that the stacking of Dodge, Block, and CounterAttack across professions is no more. Personally, I would prefer a little larger sample, but the above results are highly indicative of a change.

I still want to ask the Devs why they changed it without saying anything.

Good work, Guddy.

Great info Guddy, thanks for the hard work.

Hawks - Flurry

Maybe the dodge calculation is more complex than we thought? Maybe there is a base for fencer and pistoleer, and the dodge is a multiplier, thereby giving pistoleer and fencer's with the same dodge very different values.

I propose the following test, which i will do as soon as i get another pistol level.

1) Measure your dodge percentage FOR FENCER (>100 hits) at your current dodge level. (>0 pistoleer dodge)

2) get a pistol dodge level

3) measure again

This way you will be able to see directly whether or not an increase in pistol dodge increases the fencer dodge percentage.

I had another part to this, but i forget.

retest:

Fencer

Dodge:105

Attempts:50

Hit:18

Dodged:17

Missed:15

Total Connected:35

Percent Dodged:48%

Percent Hit:52%

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Pistoleer

Dodge:60

Attempts:50

Hit:33

Dodged:6

Miss:11

Total Connected:39

Percent Dodged:15%

Percent Hit:85%

Both pieces of data were collected from dueling a master teras kasi who was using normal swings. I dodged approximatley 3 timesmore when using a 1handed weapon than when i had a pistolequipped.

Juddy

ps.Looks like i just watsed 775,000 pistol xp oh joy