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Thread: Balance issue with Counterattack?

Boatillo
Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:48 pm
#1

I was running CoB tests with a master heavy swordsman friend, and while we both had CoB on we were unhittable to each other....I noticed for the first time that counterattack offers a huge advantage as it seems to be working atm.


Am I wrong, or does counterattack negate ALL incoming damage from an attack (ie DODGE) and then the swordsman gets a FREE attack?


Just think about it...on a totally equal mod setup heavy swordsman vs any other melee, or better yet lets say Fencer, each with +100 counterattack/dodge respectively.....the heavy swordsman will get hit the same amount as the Fencer BUT the faster the fencer attacks the swordsman THE MORE attacks the heavy swordsman also gets! EventuallyI think the heavy swordsman will be attacking faster than the fencer, and getting hit less (as the fencer ends up facing more incoming attacks, the dodge/hit ratio inevitably goes up)



Shouldn't counterattack take full damage, but then get a free attack?




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RaccaBoo
Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:00 pm
#2

dodge/counter attack/block all work the same


the name is misleading would seem like they would get a free attack but they do not. Exactly the same just worded differant so they all don't stack together and you have some uber 600 evade ability.




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Eldrikk
Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:18 pm
#3

Actually the way that counterattack works is that the attack that a person launches at the swordsman or crabineer is reflected back. Often times I would get a good laugh while raising carbineer, when fighting the cavemen on dant. Often times the cavemen would attack me with a dizzy only to dizzy themselves or try to knock me down only to be knocked down themselves.



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antares_Kauri
Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:24 pm
#4

And block still allows damage. /shrug



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RaccaBoo
Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:31 pm
#5

Really? lol that's awesome if that's true haha.



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antares_Kauri
Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:29 pm
#6

It's true, but not really all that awesome...



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Valdo
Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:54 pm
#7

I wish we could get some official word on how the block, dodge, and counter-attack work. I see so many threads a day saying this is how it works... insert random theory here with no real supporting proof. It drives me nuts. I can tell you from my experence and from my fellow pikeman/rifleman that block goes off but currently says it is a counter-attack in the combat window and that I still take damage from it. I am not sure how much damage I take as it is hard to compare the combat spam to the numbers floating over your head but it looks like anywhere from 50% to 100% of the damage gets thru. But as I dont have the patients of my betters cough cough Raphayl cough cough... I havent run any hard core tests on it, all I do is curse and scream when I see picket hits you for 813 damage but you couter-attack, you are incapatiated. .


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