Fencer Archive
Thread: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT DAMAGE TYPES!!!
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ValcynChiana
Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:20 pm
#2
um, dont know what you're on, but i do fine in pve.
Even with all our defense, there are things in the game we cant even touch with the damage we do. Im not saying we need to get super weapons, just that having one or two more types would be nice. Even if they didnt add types, just an AP1 weapon that has practical (same as gaffi or better) damage would satisfy me.
For a long time, stun damage made fencers gods in pvp, but then people found out about stun armor and PSG's, which make us completely useless. One reason i only duel unarmored now, because of the severe imbalance of having composite armor in the game.
Even if they dont want to give us new damage types, at least remove composite's ability to block every single type of damage in the game (except lightsabers, everyone knows you cant block a lightsaber).
the main problem with the game now (pvp-wise) is that unless you are a specific class, use specific weapons, and specific armor, you cant get anywhere. The only people who win are the ones who spent millions on armor, weapons, pvp food, and the like. The average player can no longer compete in pvp, and its because the devs dont know how to balance our professions against one another.
If they do nerf defense stacking in the upgrade, things will be infinitely better. I do agree that it was an art of sorts to mix profession and get the best result, but when 80% of pvpers are TKM, fencer 4440, pistoleer 0040, and novice medic, things get a little bland and frustrating.
as for damage types, yes, fencer should not be highly offensive, our strength is our defense. but fencers are naturally supposed to be very precise and accurate in combat, and therefore should be able to do enough damage to outlast an opponent. Fencers should be able to find a weak spot on almost any enemy and use that to their advantage with quick but weak attacks. When you have high end mobs with 100% resistances to everything but blast and energy (elders :smileywink
there is absolutely no way for us to beat them. I can understand them wanting us to use groups to do so, but how many people really use groups anymore when they can get buffed and solo almost anything out there?
there is absolutely no way for us to beat them. I can understand them wanting us to use groups to do so, but how many people really use groups anymore when they can get buffed and solo almost anything out there?
Daigoro202
Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:34 pm
#3
ObralemoLightningweaver wrote:
FENCER IS FORE DEFENSES PEOPLE, NOT FOR GOOD PVE TEMP!!!!
The theory that Fencer is designed for only for defense doesn't really hold water. When the fencer profession was designed, the defenses were minimal-- Melee Defense for a Master Fencer/Master BrawlerbeforeOctober 2003 was about 30.
The fact is, before many mobs were scaled up in armor and HAM values in November 2003, fencers did quite well in all PvE situations.
Profession damage types playvery heavily into combat balance, which is why other professions have actually lost damage types.
You may be right about the fact that fencers should not get added damage types, but I don't accept the idea that fencers were designed as a non-PvE, PvP-only profession.
The fencer profession may have evolved into that role, but I think it's more a result of game-wide changes rather than a specific attempt to revise the role of fencer.
Mater_Gunfighter
Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:54 am
#4
I would think that damage type is not the problem, the lack of armor piercing is.
A profession like Swordsman have only 2 types of damage but they do fine in pve. However, if the power hammer or scythe was only ap1 or ap0 this would not be the same.
Genn-great-Genn
Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:56 am
#5
What good are defenses when all that matters in high end PVE is toughness which fencer has'nt got that much of.
And what good are defenses in PVP if you cant do any damage at all.
Combat in this game is broken, not only for fencer but for ALL proffesions, wait for the combat rebalance. Though posts like these are still good as they give a picture of what the players want in the combat rebalance.
Jeisyn
Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:16 am
#6
i'm fine with the current damage types -
however, in the current system i feel we should have a weapon with higher AP1 damage than the vibroblade.
not uber damage - just better than current damage.
sharde64
Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:24 pm
#7
the only time when i questiond fencers ability to defend myself was when i was fighting thugs and pirates single handedly with my VBat the village when they got a lucky shot in thats when i started to worrie i love fencers defence and offence though might be something to do with fencer is the only mele proff ive been but i think its good all round proff apart from the lack of a reliable posture/knock down
ssublime42
Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:53 pm
#8
ObralemoLightningweaver wrote:
FENCER IS FORE DEFENSES PEOPLE, NOT FOR GOOD PVE TEMP!!!!
Fencer should be "good" at PvE just like every other elite combat profession. We do less damage, but have higher defenses. Does that mean we should be able to tank the best, but kill the slowest? Because at some point for example, if we tank too good, and we end up killing more MOBswithin a certain timeframe than other professions since we would have less down time,would that make us overly powerful? Even if we cant kill a solo mob as fast as other professions? Oh man, the CU has me paranoid. Whats more powerful, killing oneMOBthe fastestorkillingthe mostMOBs in agiven timeframe?
leillani
Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:49 pm
#9
ValcynChiana wrote:
I do agree that it was an art of sorts to mix profession and get the best result, but when 80% of pvpers are TKM, fencer 4440, pistoleer 0040, and novice medic, things get a little bland and frustrating.
I hope not, lmfao
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