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Thread: fencer and TKM PvP Ranged disadvantage?

bohunterg
Mon May 17, 2004 5:55 pm
#1


All I like is PvP my chars going to be Master Fencer and TKM with pistol 0/0/4/0 novice medic. Do you think you are at a great disadvantage not having a ranged attack. I've seen these chars woop up on most other chars in one on one. If you have simular type of a char what's your experience? Any fighting coaching would be appreciated

Thanks,

Nooblet PvP Man
raldurrm
Mon May 17, 2004 6:02 pm
#2

as long as they dont kite you you should be fine. if they do ktie hide behind something then pop out and and beat them down.



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Grungebunny
Mon May 17, 2004 9:36 pm
#3

Hi!


here is what you do for kiters.. make a /follow /burst macro as soon as they take off hit that macro and you never have to worry about chasing them.. if they are still a bit out of range use lunge or lunge2 (master brawler) they fall, clobber em


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donnysabertooth
Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
#4

lol dude im tkm, master fencer, 0040 pistol, 1040 medic, first off if they hit u, they cant do jack **edit** for staste effects, 2ndly they will miss half the time, 3rdly get armor, 4thly ranged mitgation 2 helps a lot, 5thly it owns.



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riseabove
Mon May 17, 2004 11:28 pm
#5

Good combo...this is one of the types of character...if i dont get a good footing in the beginning, it can go downhill quick. Your main trouble like everyone's will be getting kited by a rifleman, or god forbid a CM.....you see a MCM /burstrun /meditate..........if you can....



Jeht Eno-Jedi
Nealoc187
Tue May 18, 2004 2:48 am
#6

I had that template for a long time. 0040 isn't no ranged at all, but admittedly you won't be hitting much of what you shoot at. I'd suggest investing some hefty cash into a krayted sonic blaster. That way at least the hits you do get in will count. I've got literally zero ranged skills right now, as in, not even novice marksman, and I'm doing just fine. Just hope you don't get totally kited once in more than 5 minutes or so. If someone does kite you and you think you have no chance of catching them running after them, start running the other way. They will most likely follow you, and then you can turn right back around and be going towards them again. By the time they figure out you've switched directions yet again you can probably get in close. If not you are kinda SOL until you get enough energy to burst run again.



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piezo
Tue May 18, 2004 6:25 am
#7

You will be missing out on ranged dmg mitigation...which can be huge(unless that pistoleer line has it?)


I can usually tell by the floaty damage who has mitigation and who doesn't.



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josaan
Tue May 18, 2004 7:42 am
#8

0040 in pistoleer is a good addition to any template - ranged mitigation 1 and 2 and some good state defenses



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Arcus
Tue May 18, 2004 7:42 am
#9








donbon : master fencer : teras kasis master : trickshot
im the guy with full HAM standing over 10 slained rebels.







You slained them good, eh?




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Yalton
Tue May 18, 2004 8:09 am
#10

I'm a master Fencer and I'm also going o get Master Pikeman and most of rifleman. I don't plan on worryinh if they want to run away. But I might get master rifle and most of Pike to give myself Mitigation 3 to both ranged and melee. There is one big disavantage and I don't think most people are even going to figure it out since it involves some things that VERY few people still use. I'm keeping that one to my self as one of my aces in my sleeve. But becareful. If you don't ahve any ranged attacks you can get kited, and a smart palyer will make sure they know which way you are going. I'll be happy when this shooting through terrain is fixed since it will make Corellia a bad place for rifle men to try and kite any one on.
Adifi
Tue May 18, 2004 9:51 am
#11

If your want to pvp and your basing your template on any of the brawler trees, then if you have no ranged still at all your are going to do very very poorly...... Of course any ranged character is going to kite you, its obvious. This means that as soon as they get out of 20m range you are dead.

Picking up some ranged proffession is a must. If only for ranged damage mit 3.



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OditeFosore
Tue May 18, 2004 1:31 pm
#12

Problem with no ranged now days is that a lot of pvp type ranged folks are going to have range-modded E11's or lasers that are 120+ ideal range+ will have eaten a bit of range food at +25 or so on top of the +160 base accuracy for riflemen + SEAs. With a range moddedE11 I can hit a fencer friend about 1 out of3 with a flushing(stun) even with COB running. That means your defenses get dropped to next to nothing in3 shots and then the headshots are coming. Even with burst run and follow, you're going to have trouble getting there in time with no ranged offense.


Best tricks were already listed. Use terrain and buildings and don't follow a kiter unless you're already close. You'll have great defenses and with a decent stun baton you will be a viable PVP'er. Max your mind, especially your focus, drink brandy and at least 1 canape. Eat your kd food, get your COB running, and work to get close to those ranged guys and you'll be viable in PVP. It's usually a group effort, so just know your place and stay out of the poison and you'll get some fp's.



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donnysabertooth
Tue May 18, 2004 9:36 pm
#13






Arcus wrote:








donbon : master fencer : teras kasis master : trickshot
im the guy with full HAM standing over 10 slained rebels.








You slained them good, eh?







yes, theres only 2 people on my server i cant beat 1v1, but im getting closer to beating them


and i do surpisingly good when outnumbered, the adrenlin rush just makes me real smart about what to do ive killed 12+ people at once (some good, some bad, some buffed, some not, some armored, some not) all at the same time, some people say oh yah u got buffs and armor that makes it easy, no it doesnt not hwen ur opponetns have it to, it takes real skill and ido this on a regular basis




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