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Thread: Time for a new Rep IMHO

Tpaul
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:11 pm
#1

Since I came back I see alot of we need this and that but no action. We got animation. Big Deal. The CU took away our Dodge and all of our specials are a joke.


You have to have swordsman to be competive in combat. Even our Lunge was taken.


So I hear all of talk talk talk but no action action action. The job is not getting done we need new blood to try. Its been how many months since the CU and not one update that helped fencer not one.


I will be Fencer till I die. But a little help would be nice.
Vupos
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:41 pm
#2

Yeah we have some problems, but over all fencer came through the CU with very few bad bugs, we are gimpped yeah but not nearly to the extent of others, like SL, Rangers, Commandos, smugglers, etc.


We really aren't that bad off, and are still a veryviable profession, Not getting fixes isn't due to lack of Casper doing his job, but simply there are much larger things to fix, things that a re higher up on the bug totem pole if you will.




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Fredwroc
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:49 pm
#3


Casper has done a fine job, going above and beyond his call of duty. He followed the Fan Fest completely, and attended it as far as I know, explaining and questioning what needed to be done for the fencer class and game as a whole. Casper works very hard and has listed the top fencer issues time upon time again, and even presented them with well thought out fixes, but you underestimate how hard it is to get their attention. Right now, the devs are focused on Jedi, and they probably always will be. Even since Raph's days and correspondent fencer's have gotten almost no attention except when defense stacking arose and because of other classes taking our trees, we were nerfed.


I trust that Casper tries, very hard, to get the devs to help us, but you must realize, that every class is in as bad shape as us (some better, some worse), but they aren't recieving anything as well. For most classes besides Jedi its hard to recieve anything, and for fencer, which has one of the lowest populations in the game, its increasingly difficult.


I'll be behind Casper until he steps down himself, or the developers re-appoint one on their own accord, but I think he's doing a damn fine job. There is a lot more work involved than is evident, and Casper is doing it all.




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Fredwroc
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:50 pm
#4


May I add, that blind and bleed are cross-class problems, and will likely see fixes soon as they are Jedi abilities as well...and we all know how that works...


But more than anything, WE ALL, need to band together and lobby for lunge. BRING LUNGE BACK. There isn't much we can do but support Casper in his efforts to restore it, as I know its a very important issue to him.


Message Edited by Fredwroc on 07-28-2005 11:52 PM



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"Ahazi Fencer Society est. 2003"
love raphayl
EnderUK
Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:42 am
#5

The post of correspodent is not something I'd wish on anything. You get told what SOE wants to tell you, then you have to get clearence to post it on the main boards. Just like these boards you post ideas or forward them on from here on to the c-forums. These forums the devs are meant to read but many times these ideas go unacknowledged. I've know corrispondents that have posted on the c-boards, and msg dev with news about profession breaking bug fixes only to be ignored. Then you have the communitity getting upset at you for the tinest little of things. Remember correspondent is an unpaid position.



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Sabatini
Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:30 am
#6

There has been no evidence whatsoever that Casper has been neglecting his duties.You seem to be confused that a correspondent is an actual member of the development team who can push things through. Obviously that's not the case...not for Fencers, nor any other profession (otherwise Smugglers would be actually...you know...smuggling, Entertainers would have value, etc.)


Every correspondent tries their best, but ultimately the development team is going to work on whatever they feel like whenever they feel like. Thats why candles get fixed before broken professions. Just the way of things. I mean it took them til last patch to finally swap the healing branch of Force Senses to work withskills that actually exist in the post-CU game. How hard afix could that have possibly been? Its best to keep low expectations of the Devs sometimes. They've got alot on their plate and a strange sense of priorites.


I wish for fencer changes just as much as you do, but I maintain no illusion that a change in correspondent will do anything to speed the process along. Well unless Tiggs became our correspondent..and probablynot even then
Vupos
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:18 pm
#7






Fredwroc wrote:


Casper has done a fine job, going above and beyond his call of duty. He followed the Fan Fest completely, and attended it as far as I know, explaining and questioning what needed to be done for the fencer class and game as a whole. Casper works very hard and has listed the top fencer issues time upon time again, and even presented them with well thought out fixes, but you underestimate how hard it is to get their attention. Right now, the devs are focused on Jedi, and they probably always will be. Even since Raph's days and correspondent fencer's have gotten almost no attention except when defense stacking arose and because of other classes taking our trees, we were nerfed.


I trust that Casper tries, very hard, to get the devs to help us, but you must realize, that every class is in as bad shape as us (some better, some worse), but they aren't recieving anything as well. For most classes besides Jedi its hard to recieve anything, and for fencer, which has one of the lowest populations in the game, its increasingly difficult.


I'll be behind Casper until he steps down himself, or the developers re-appoint one on their own accord, but I think he's doing a damn fine job. There is a lot more work involved than is evident, and Casper is doing it all.






QFE, and stuff



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Tpaul
Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:38 pm
#8

I never said neglect. I never said he hasn't tried. I said he has no results. It's not personal I don't know him, but it is about getting something done. It is not about traveling, and writing forum posts. It is about results.


Fencer has seen NO results in the possitive. NONE. Animations do not count


He might be the nicest guy in the world, but anyone tell me when the last update was that helped the fencer profession?


No really tell me! I really want to know.
Vupos
Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:50 pm
#9






Tpaul wrote:

I never said neglect. I never said he hasn't tried. I said he has no results. It's not personal I don't know him, but it is about getting something done. It is not about traveling, and writing forum posts. It is about results.


Fencer has seen NO results in the possitive. NONE. Animations do not count


He might be the nicest guy in the world, but anyone tell me when the last update was that helped the fencer profession?


No really tell me! I really want to know.





Yu really don't get it do you, CORRs DO NOT have the power to push changes through, They only have the power to post in the corr forum that it, they bring our stuff to the devs feet, but have no power over whether they take it or not


Casper was been cor for like 3 months and you are all ready saying we need a new one, Come on if Corrs could do what you what you expect why haven't SL seen an update in 2 years, 2 YEARS, or smugglers, still not getting a revamp, or rangers, etc.


Frankly our bugs are just low priority for the devs, they are to more more game breaking things (and jedi) that need updates. But according to the devs, they are now working mostly on Bug fixes so we have a chance



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ARC_Casper
Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:56 am
#10

Thanks for everyone who appreciates my work =).

Yes I was at Fan Fest and spent a few minutes in front of everyone going over how weak bleed was and Dave White the dev (Keldarin) said he would look into the power of them back then but I haven't heard much about it since then. You have to understand there are 40! other Correspondents that ALL have issues and we all want things fixed or a DEV response on every issue we have, but we can't sadly. Time the DEV's spend responding and reading every post in the forums personally is time away from the code and fixing things. They have meetings daily with Tiggs and TH who gather all the information we post and give it to them.

I'm sorry if I am a little quiet on the forums some times I have work and sometimes try to have a life outside SWG =).

Trust me they know our problems, if you want an example of a profession who has had problems the last 2-3 months and got no attention is Tailor, this profession had something working that was one of their biggest money makers (Bio-Clothes) to have broken with a patch after the CU, It is STILL not fixed.

I don't decide when and what gets fixed, I push for OUR issues to get fixed and looked at but I do not manage the dev's and tell them what issues to work on.

If you are getting the idea of me stepping down from some of the other Correspondents asking if they should step down and let someone else try or if they should stay, that is because they have been a correspondent for 6 months to almost 2 years. So I have no plans on stepping down in the future any time soon .

It is time for another poking with the attention stick on the Correspondent forum.


Also for what it's worth, The DEV's just announced to everyone that they are gonna hold back on content for a few publishes and get some of the bugs squashed before they move forward and give us some really awesome things =). Hopefully everyone gets some love with in that time period.




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