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Thread: A Fencer pwned my Jedi Knight. Hilarious
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PatrickArzo
Wed May 19, 2004 8:26 pm
#1
Let me sum up my combat log:
Miss
Miss
Miss
Miss
Miss
You hit guy with sword for 400 dmg
miss
You have bee incapacitated
let me sum up his combat log:
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
Why grind Jedi when we can all be Fencer?
Message Edited by PatrickArzo on 05-19-2004 08:28 PM
PatrickArzo
Wed May 19, 2004 8:27 pm
#2
Let me sum up my combat log:
Miss
Miss
Miss
Miss
Miss
You hit guy with sword for 400 dmg
miss
You have bee incapacitated
let me sum up his combat log:
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
Why grind Jedi when we can all be Fencer?
Dragunsoul
Wed May 19, 2004 8:44 pm
#4
How do you know he wasnt? I was wearing stun armor and a stun gen and still got owned by a fencer with my rifleman. His attacks were hitting me for 580 a hit with full armor on.
I think its funny when ppl say cry nerf. Its easy to say that when your the one on the overpowered side. I mean after all... why would you want to lose the ability to dodge 90% and still have the stregnth of a swordsman.
Oh and stun batons may not have ap but they still seem to cut right through comp armor.
This is a problem and those that dont think it is are the ones trying to hold onto their god mode fotm professions.
It is going to get nerfed and balanced out in combat revamp so have fun with it now.
Flame on
PatrickArzo
Wed May 19, 2004 8:53 pm
#5
Yeah, 39% stun. Come again. I barely scratched him. Let me reiterate:
JEDI FREAKING KNIGHT
Thror
Wed May 19, 2004 9:16 pm
#7
I would hazard a guess that your opponent had at least a 400 damage acklay baton and he was probably spamming scatter hit 2 which ignores most defenses (ie- it's bugged).
The scatter thing is a known issue which any reasonable fencer will admit to you is an exploit and something that needs to be fixed. The acklay baton is something the devs put into the game and already nerfed once. Maybe they need to nerf it again, or maybe they need to address the issue with composite armor having insane resistences to EVERYTHING except stun damage.
Neither aspect of your opponent's strategy is a justifiable excuse to nerf fencer defenses. We don't all have 500 damage stun batons and we don't all spam scatter2 like it was going out of style.
The only other thing I can say to you is the same mantra we're always hearing from Thunderheart. All issues will be addressed in the combat balance. Until then please stop crying nerf.
donnysabertooth
Wed May 19, 2004 9:32 pm
#8
Dragunsoul wrote:
How do you know he wasnt? I was wearing stun armor and a stun gen and still got owned by a fencer with my rifleman. His attacks were hitting me for 580 a hit with full armor on.
I think its funny when ppl say cry nerf. Its easy to say that when your the one on the overpowered side. I mean after all... why would you want to lose the ability to dodge 90% and still have the stregnth of a swordsman.
Oh and stun batons may not have ap but they still seem to cut right through comp armor.
This is a problem and those that dont think it is are the ones trying to hold onto their god mode fotm professions.
It is going to get nerfed and balanced out in combat revamp so have fun with it now.
Flame on
thats funny comming from a rifleman? and umm 580 with stun armor? only if he had like 1.2k max stun
okay consider this:
a 180-350 stun batonAP0 vs 40% stun armor AR1
50% less damage due to armor
90-175 vs 40%
after that your attacks are 40-80 damage vs a 45% stun resistant shield generator
20-40 vs intimidation, 5-15
5-15 vs a 4k modifier 20-60 damage
under the right conditions, IE being prepared, you should take no more than 20-60 damage, this isnt even ocnsdiering toughness
**edit** n00b your just pissed you got owned? why cant other pople kill me, other people with the same template? same fencer? i have a better baton, better armor (im prepared duh), and better tactics
not my fault you suck, omg i just realize i didnt even consider mitgation, wow man, do the math, you werent wearing stun armor if u weree getting hit for 580 and u certianlly werent wearing a shield gen
when i fight unprepared people ive done 800 damage before and ill admit that is a bit overpowered but its there fault for not being prepared.
D3st0r
Wed May 19, 2004 10:04 pm
#10
Join the club Patrick. My 4/4/4/4 Dark Jedi Guardian has been owned by a fencer before. And FYI donnysabertooth, I have 42% Stun Armor and a 46% Stun PSG, and guess what, I for **edit**ing sure wasnt taking20-60dmg per hit. You're adding all these things into the equation that are in no way availabe to a Jedi.
Intimidate? If he had the ability to actually intimidate like Brawlers do (i.e. its not based on accuracy like Mind Blast is, you cant "dodge" a brawler's intimidate but you can dodge mind blast) then he wouldnt have been missing in the first place. You've got absolutely no idea about the weakness' of Jedi, our total lack of melee defenses and there's nothing we can do about it. Toughness in no way affects a Fencer btw, since all of you exploit Scatter Hit 2 what difference does Toughness make? All I know, is I see Fencers hit for 300-500dmg consistently in PvP against prepared PvP builds all the time, and I've been on the recieving end of it countless times.
Tataomm
Wed May 19, 2004 11:13 pm
#11
Dragunsoul wrote:I was wearing stun armor and a stun gen and still got owned by a fencer with my rifleman.I think its funny when ppl say cry nerf. Its easy to say that when your the one on the overpowered side. I mean after all... why would you want to lose the ability to dodge 90% and still have the stregnth of a swordsman.This is a problem and those that dont think it is are the ones trying to hold onto their god mode fotm professions.
Did I read this right? Is this actually a rifleman accusing fencers of being an overpowered FoTM? Talk about irony.
Fetei
Thu May 20, 2004 1:10 am
#12
PatrickArzo wrote:
Let me sum up my combat log:
Miss
Miss
Miss
Miss
Miss
You hit guy with sword for 400 dmg
miss
You have bee incapacitated
let me sum up his combat log:
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
you hit jedi knight for 600 dmg
Why grind Jedi when we can all be Fencer?
it won't change at guardian 
it's the damn acklay batons and the bugged scatterhit that ignores our 60%toughness
don't worry though,things will change soon
DarthVillanus
Thu May 20, 2004 1:42 am
#13
There is only 1 way a fencer will own a Jedi Knight/guardian who is wearing stun armor and a psg. That's if the fencer has a 800+ stun baton, which are rarer than 199 dmg, -9 force pearls. For a fencer to get such a baton, he will have to loot some exceptional acklay bones over 500/500.
Now for some insight based on my pvp experience with Jedi guardians.
I fight 4/4/4/4 guardians all the time on Ahazi because they like to pvp. The stats on my stun baton is 242-412 dmg. Every guardian I've met wears 37% stun armor and an effect sliced imp psg with around 60% resists to stun. I wear 85%+ kinetic armor. I wear a psg but it doesn't matter since all psg's are vuln to kinetic so its just my armor that can protect me from a saber.
Using scatterhit2 and my 242-412 dmg stun baton, I hit the jedi for 40-60 damage through his armor and psgs. He hits me for 200+ minddamage through my armor. 1 on 1, the guardian wins everytime. Even if I manage to get the jedi's health down, he just uses Complete heal and continues to own me.
If things get too dangerous, the jedi just uses forcerun and run away. A smart jedi is not going to stand there and let a bunch of fencers whack on him with batons. Now my question to all the jedi who complain about getting killed by fencers is........why aren't you wearing stun armor and a psg? I'm smart enough to, why won't you?
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