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Thread: Fencer vs. Jedi, Your Thoughts?
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RebelKangaroo
Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:18 am
#1
I just recently mastered fencer and started to PvP a bit with it. I was doing pretty good against other players by applying states and eating away at their HAM bars until a jedi came up. After that it just went down hill.
So my question is, what are your strategies for beating or at least surviving against a jedi until they decide to forcerun away?
So far the only thing I've found that works really well is to keep the states on them and outlast them until their force pool drains.
Anyone have any specific strategy like what attacks work best vs. jedi or is it better to use the gaffi or stun bat?
Thanks for the help.
So my question is, what are your strategies for beating or at least surviving against a jedi until they decide to forcerun away?
So far the only thing I've found that works really well is to keep the states on them and outlast them until their force pool drains.
Anyone have any specific strategy like what attacks work best vs. jedi or is it better to use the gaffi or stun bat?
Thanks for the help.
ken0bi17
Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:51 am
#2
I understand where you're coming from, as I usually get killed by jedi too if I'm out overt somewhere. A few things I've read/noticed:
Don't wear armor: every armor type is vuln to lightsaber, so all it really gives you is encumbs.
like you said, apply states and try to outlast them. Also use your highest dmg weapon, since damage type doesnt matter against a jedi. You might try playing defensively (healing yourself, using foods, etc.) until they run out of force power, and then trying to hit them hard (that's if they dont force run away, lol).
Don't wear armor: every armor type is vuln to lightsaber, so all it really gives you is encumbs.
like you said, apply states and try to outlast them. Also use your highest dmg weapon, since damage type doesnt matter against a jedi. You might try playing defensively (healing yourself, using foods, etc.) until they run out of force power, and then trying to hit them hard (that's if they dont force run away, lol).
Message Edited by ken0bi17 on 08-03-2004 01:51 PM
RebelKangaroo
Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:21 pm
#3
Yeah, I know about the armor so I take mine off if I see a jedi start to come for me. The main reason I was asking is that I was thinking about being a fencer/BH 3000.
I hear swordsman or TK is better at this, but I love fencer and I like a challenge. Any tips on your experience vs. jedi? What attacks work best etc?
I've fought only a few but I've found asking advice helps where experience fails
I hear swordsman or TK is better at this, but I love fencer and I like a challenge. Any tips on your experience vs. jedi? What attacks work best etc?
I've fought only a few but I've found asking advice helps where experience fails
DarthVillanus
Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:01 pm
#4
Let's see:
Fencer vs. padawan:
The Fencer has a 60/40 chance of winning with the odds in his favor. The padawan doesn't have a completed template and probably won't have Master lightsaber, Master enhancer, or Master healing. If you manage to kd them they have a slim chance of living. They don't have fr3 yet so they can't run away
Fencer vs. knight:
The fencer has a 10/90 chance of winning with the odds against him. I have seen many many knights and how they pvp. The smart knights always eat weapon accuracy food. So instead of the jedi missing the fencer 60-70% of the time because of the jedi's normally low accuracy, the jedihits the fencer 60%-70% of the time. Here's what kills the fencer though. Jedi knightscan apply every state in the game, including stun, the fencer's worst knightmare.
Once the knight stuns and intimidates the fencer, he will be hitting the fencer 90%-100% of the time. Using saberheadhit the jedi will annihilate the fencer.
Swordsman vs. knight:
Swordsman is, imo, thebest melee profession when it comes to killing jedi and pve for that matter. A power-uped acklay power hammer and headhit3 will take out a jedi in a few swings, even through force armor! I've talked to many knights and they all agree that the hard hitting power of swordsman does the jedi in more often than the other melee professions.
Not only that but the swordsman's counterattack is up to scale with fencer's dodge.
| Kalon Wiekog - Dark Jedi Knight |
ImpSwordsman
Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:20 pm
#5
Actually i just got done fighting a jedi and i was doing well till his friends showed up 
Yes take off all your armor if its just you and the jedi one on one.
I take dodge food, dmg reduction food, and i can last a long time against a jedi while beating on them with my gaffi and dizzy/kd'ing them with posture change dizzy.
Also keep any states you can on them such as blind, intimidate, stun, etc. they will heal them but that uses force and they will eventually run out
Protteus
Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:51 pm
#6
TKM is good against Jedi for its toughness. Fencer is good for overall defense. Swordsman, is agreed, probably the best Jedi killer assuming you can get your hands on enough speed tapes to cap, enough acc to hit most every shot, and an 800+ hammer. Another thing that does well is mpikeman with speed and acc cap. Got a friend who is 3000bh/Mpikeman. Hes got a 600 mind psn lance, 300 mind fire lance, and a 1200 max lva for using hit3. At speed cap, believe me, it owns.
Nomac13
Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:55 pm
#7
Just curious is that Bobthealien your talking about cause he put up a tough fight in coronet and we didnt get to finish it. But anyways his fire proc was kicking my ass for 10 minutes or something......I even jumped in some water 
RebelKangaroo
Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:38 pm
#9
Will capping dodge by taking some pistols as well make you even harder for a jedi to hit? I figure as a fencer vs. a jedi I'm playing a very defensive game on my part.
Until the jedi runs out of force power that is. Up to that point though, I would like to get hit a minimum of times while keeping states on the jedi and such.
Anyone have any experience with jedi accuracy againts a dodge capped fencer running a CoB macro?
Until the jedi runs out of force power that is. Up to that point though, I would like to get hit a minimum of times while keeping states on the jedi and such.
Anyone have any experience with jedi accuracy againts a dodge capped fencer running a CoB macro?
SmuuthAzz
Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:08 pm
#11
Its hard to beat a jedi as fencer very easy as a TKMthough. Fencer's dmg output is way to low to put up with a jedi.
RebelKangaroo
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:08 pm
#12
SmuuthAzz wrote:Its hard to beat a jedi as fencer very easy as a TKM though. Fencer's dmg output is way to low to put up with a jedi.
I realize that, but that's what makes it more fun.
Planetstalker
Sat Aug 07, 2004 4:19 am
#13
Yes is all about outlasting. U need a good weapon (aklay gaffi) and your damage ouput will be fine. Hit health exlusivly (bodyhit3 is same damage as hit3 so u lose no dps). Keep jedi intimdated at all times! Keep them blind and dizzyed to! A dot weapon does help (only got a health fire 100 dot myself) warcry can take 10secs away from the delay betwen kd pd. Fought a Lightsabermaster yesterday and I lost some and won some, very much fun it was anyway If he gets u dizzy/kd and is not intitmdate u are dead simpple as that.I have only 76 melee def, and will try to stack that later to see if it helps.
Veiroi
If he gets u dizzy/kd and is not intitmdate u are dead simpple as that.I have only 76 melee def, and will try to stack that later to see if it helps.Veiroi
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