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Thread: to answer all the is this a good pvp template

donnysabertooth
Wed May 19, 2004 5:20 pm
#1


you know what? the template doesnt do the pvp, the player does, sure a good tmeplate helps but ive fought numerous people with teh exact same templateas me and ive slaughtered htem but for those who think the template is what makes the player here is what you should look for in a template:



  • ranged mitgation 2 or greater

  • melee mitgation 2 or greater

  • ranged and melee defense ofover 75

  • some medic (its neccessary)

  • doctor is very helpful

  • lots of state defense

  • ackley baton

  • at least one mastered ELITE profession

okay ya your template needs to have all those to be alirght


if you want to have a template that pretty much makes you immune to all defense to state use mine


master fencer, tkm, 0040 pistol, 1040 medic, ill describe this templates good points: over 125 melee defense, over 115 ranged, 115 dodge, full heals, ranged mitgation 2, melee mitgation 3, defense to dizzy: 95, defense to blind 90, defense to kd 120 defense to posturee change 100 defense to stun 65 defense to intimdate 30 (only low one), tka owns in PVE and PVP, meditation helps, fencer owns in pvp, 2 damage types and in the near future 3 (razor knuckler)


but ive foguth so many people with same templat and just handed them their asses, because its not the template, its the player, keep that in mind



good buffs+good armor+good weapons+good intimdate DOES NOT = UBER


good buffs+good armor+good weapons+good intimdate+good tactics+good timing=ownage


Message Edited by donnysabertooth on 08-13-2004 07:20 AM



aivut
The UnTouchAbles
Vegitaa
Wed May 19, 2004 5:34 pm
#2






donnysabertooth wrote:

you know what? the template doesnt do the pvp, the player does, sure a good tmeplate helps but ive fought numerous people with teh exact same templateas me and ive slaughtered htem but for those who think the template is what makes the player here is what you should look for in a template:



  • ranged mitgation 2 or greater

  • melee mitgation 2 or greater

  • ranged and melee defense of over 75

  • some medic (its neccessary)

  • at least one mastered ELITE profession

okay ya your template needs to have all those to be alirght


if you want to have a template that pretty much makes you immune to all defense to state use mine


master fencer, tkm, 0040 pistol, 1040 medic, ill describe this templates good points: over 125 melee defense, over 115 ranged, 115 dodge, full heals, ranged mitgation 2, melee mitgation 3, defense to dizzy: 95, defense to blind 90, defense to kd 120 defense to posturee change 100 defense to stun 65 defense to intimdate 30 (only low one), tka owns in PVE and PVP, meditation helps, fencer owns in pvp, 2 damage types and in the near future 3 (razor knuckler)


but ive foguth so many people with same templat and just handed them their asses, because its not the template, its the player, keep that in mind



good buffs+good armor+good weapons+good intimdate DOES NOT = UBER


good buffs+good armor+good weapons+good intimdate+good tactics+good timing=ownage








Nice post buddy. I didn't even consider the pistoleer tree. I definately agree that good in PvP means strategy, practice, and patience. Templates are good for giving you the right tools but how you use them makes someone good in PvP. I must say though, your template makes me rethink my melee exclusive template plans. Thanks for the info and I totally agree with your main point.


Startegy, Practice, and Eperience make a good PvP'er





There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


donnysabertooth
Wed May 19, 2004 6:04 pm
#3

0040 in pistoleer is probably the single best 14 skill pts in the game, it takes 49 points to get it but WELL worth it, ranged mitgation 2, and a ton of state defense.



aivut
The UnTouchAbles
volta
Wed May 19, 2004 7:59 pm
#4

Oh yes.. I've fought a very similar template before and currently going Master Fencer - TKA 4/0/0/4 - Pistoleer 1/0/4/1 - Medic 2/0/4/0 - Scout 1/0/0/0


The Pistoleer state defence tree is amazing, i've spammed dizzies and KDs so much on a friend with this template and i just cant land it, and if i ever do hes allready got me in a load of states


states are the winner




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donnysabertooth
Wed May 19, 2004 8:01 pm
#5






volta wrote:

Oh yes.. I've fought a very similar template before and currently going Master Fencer - TKA 4/0/0/4 - Pistoleer 1/0/4/1 - Medic 2/0/4/0 - Scout 1/0/0/0


The Pistoleer state defence tree is amazing, i've spammed dizzies and KDs so much on a friend with this template and i just cant land it, and if i ever do hes allready got me in a load of states


states are the winner






drop the scout, drop the pistol stances, drop the pistol grips, and master tk dude, u wont be able to do any high level PVE with just fencer, master tk is defiently worth it.



aivut
The UnTouchAbles
Hendlefe123
Wed May 19, 2004 9:17 pm
#6


I dunno man. Templates do help a lot. If I hadn't tried out some templates, I would never had gained any PvP experience.


But yeah, I see what you're trying to say. Some people I fight just have no idea what they are doing. They usually ask me what moves I'm using and I'm all to happy to help... I mean come on, they don't even use intimidate.


P.S.: I don't think pistoleer is that good. Some people have yet to realize that *whispers* is the ultimate template!






X Leto :: Fencer :: Doctor :: Bria X


donnysabertooth
Wed May 19, 2004 9:25 pm
#7

lol i dont know what could be much better than this template, i can last a bit longer against kiters, with my attachments im hardly ever effected by states or even hit and if someone gets close to me, they are ddead.




aivut
The UnTouchAbles
Hendlefe123
Wed May 19, 2004 9:45 pm
#8

Ooooh. What you are missing out on


True, having high defences to states are good and all, but there is always that chance to get the state affected on you. Especially if you are intimidated.



Here is my template.


Master Fencer


4/0/3/0 Doctor


4/0/0/4 Teras Kasi


Now for the highlights.


With Master Fencer and the Precision Striking line of Teras Kasi, I have Ranged Defence of +114 (+10 for +124 ranged defencefrom 2 Aakuan rings), Melee Defence of +136, Dodge of +105, Blind Defence +40, Dizzy Defence +40, Intimidate Defence +20, KD Defence +50 and Posture Change +50.


With the ranged defence, melee defence and dodge, I am near untouchable. Now, not only do I have this, I have doctor skills to boot.


Nowadays, the only way to win against other stackers (you know who you are) is through states. However, with doctor, you can remove all these states applied with the added bonus of disease cures and poison cures and fires (for those commandos)... being able to heal these every 3-4 seconds. Also, you have +80 medicine use to play around with for more effectiveness for the poisons and diseases. Plus you have all those other doctor skills such as wound heals.


Also, the meditating line is very useful. Helps get rid of those bothersome wounds and force of will is a lifesaver. And don't forget Powerboost! An extra +550 mind is very useful (for those of you with 1100 mind).


This template, combined with some doctors buffs, musician buff, dancer buff, brandy, dodge food, canape, muon, stun layered helmet and chest and imperial PSG will make you a force to be reckoned with. Also that acklay baton and poison knives will come in handy .


So yeah.. I've taken on 10 rebels at once (no joke). Sure sure templates don't do it all!




X Leto :: Fencer :: Doctor :: Bria X


RyloHoly
Thu May 20, 2004 7:58 am
#9

"you know what? the template doesnt do the pvp, the player does"

Unless your a CM/Rifleman...

jediwanter
Fri May 21, 2004 7:21 am
#10

Apparently you guys don't have dots on your servers. Dots own pvp and that's why combat medics are so hated. There's no 75% pvp reduction,so it doesn't really matter what template you have when an 1100 tick mind disease is thrown at you unless you're a doctor. This game is currently ran by dots. Even though pikeman aren't vary strong in pvp, go duel a pikeman that's looted a 250 mind fire weapon from a nightsister. Spamming warcry2 and intimidate on you while it ticks and there's not a whole lot you can do. Btw,the guy that made this post and listed his template is currently wasting 2 skill pts. You would be better off gaining 2 more ranged defense from the ranged support tree in marksman instead of using them in the medic tree. The skill that you're holding onto in the medic tree does not improve your stims. It only improves your wound healing. (not sure if you knew that)



Ron'Revog
DarthTyranuss
Fri May 21, 2004 10:00 am
#11




Here is a template I find is outstanding...at leas when it comes to melee fights.

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I am a Master Brawler, Master Fencer, Master TKA and 0 4 3 4 Swordsman.

I do know that it sucks when it comes to range since riflemen and range professions in public kites me. But when I duel another melee profession then I usally wins,

those times I dont win is when I meet another guy with the same or something like my template. Then I find us even.


Another thing I'd like to mension is that I havent found an Acklay Stun Baton yet good enough for me. That makes me even more helpless against one with an acklay stun baton. (Anyone got one for sale? /mail Mapaeto)
donnysabertooth
Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:19 am
#12

/bump cause theres too many template threads now


oh yahany template with 4030 doc or more and master fencer will be at least somewhat sucess full (doc is so good cause so many people use DOTS nowadays)



aivut
The UnTouchAbles
DarkHelmet-TIO
Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:33 am
#13

You will almost always have a doc with you and since damage in pvp is almost always mind, you really don't need medic. I would have liked to do the pistoleer defence tree but then I wouldnt have master brawler which is ESSENTIAL for a pvp template. Instead I could do the swordsman defence tree and pikeman defence tree bringing defences up to close to pistoleer.


Center of being and maxed out defences will make up for no ranged mitigation since a rifleman would only hit you once every 10 shots or so.
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