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Thread: Which template........
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Grimror
Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:11 am
#1
-Smily- wrote:
Theres a differenc4e between melee def and state defenses. TKA also yields defensive acuity which makes secondary defenses (i.e. dodge, block, and counter) activate more often. I'm just trying to decide whether have over 100 vs states, or a slightly higher dodge rate is more important.
Defensive accuity does nothing for you if you don't have a vk/bare hands equipted. Vice versa, dodge will only work if you have a 1h weapon/pistol equipted. Dodge works like this: Each attack made on you by an enemy will make a save roll. If you pass this roll, you will dodge the attack and make no damage. Defensive acuity works like this: Each attack made on you by an anemy will make a save roll. If you pass this roll, another roll will occurwich will determine what kind of reaction you do, and for the tka this can be eitehr dodge, couter attack, or block (and your actual score for dodge that you have from fencer has no bearing on any of this.). As to defenses, your max raw melee/ranged def is 125, same with dodge/counter attack/block/def. acuity. def. vs states max is 90. I believe with attachments this max raises, but only by another 25 points. hope this helps in figuring out what you want to do...
-Smily-
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:14 pm
#2
Here are my two templates that im trying to choose between.......
1. Master fencer
Pistoleer 0 0 4 0 (+40 vs blind, stun, dizzy, +50 vs kd, +20 vs post down, ranged mit 1 & 2)
Doc 3 0 4 0 (disease aint **edit** anymore with the new innoculations, I'd rather be able to heal the exceptional dot psn weapons faster)
2. Master Fencer
TKA 0 3 0 4 (state defense, defensive acuity, and ranged/melee def)
doc 3 0 4 0
lemme know which one u think is better. Currently im using the pistoleer template. And i have 140 dodge, 125 vs kd, 115 vs dizzy/blind, and 65 vs stun with my SEA's. I might dodge slightly more with the other template, but as fencer with alot of dodge SEA's im thinking that the state defenses are going to be the things that help me more in the long run anayway.
1. Master fencer
Pistoleer 0 0 4 0 (+40 vs blind, stun, dizzy, +50 vs kd, +20 vs post down, ranged mit 1 & 2)
Doc 3 0 4 0 (disease aint **edit** anymore with the new innoculations, I'd rather be able to heal the exceptional dot psn weapons faster)
2. Master Fencer
TKA 0 3 0 4 (state defense, defensive acuity, and ranged/melee def)
doc 3 0 4 0
lemme know which one u think is better. Currently im using the pistoleer template. And i have 140 dodge, 125 vs kd, 115 vs dizzy/blind, and 65 vs stun with my SEA's. I might dodge slightly more with the other template, but as fencer with alot of dodge SEA's im thinking that the state defenses are going to be the things that help me more in the long run anayway.
ken0bi17
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:16 pm
#3
well, in either case you have the same amount of fencer and doctor. So why not use a character builder, figure out if you get more defense from pistoleer 0040 or TKA 0304 (I'm thinking it's the latter, not sure though) and then pick that one?
-Smily-
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:19 pm
#4
Theres a differenc4e between melee def and state defenses. TKA also yields defensive acuity which makes secondary defenses (i.e. dodge, block, and counter) activate more often. I'm just trying to decide whether have over 100 vs states, or a slightly higher dodge rate is more important.
ken0bi17
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:57 pm
#5
-Smily- wrote:
Theres a differenc4e between melee def and state defenses. TKA also yields defensive acuity which makes secondary defenses (i.e. dodge, block, and counter) activate more often. I'm just trying to decide whether have over 100 vs states, or a slightly higher dodge rate is more important.
don't you only get the dodge bonus from a certain profession if you have that weapon equipped? in either case I would go for the state defenses, it's easy to get 10 dodge from tapes and such. With the TK part you also get extra melee and ranged defense which helps a lot. I know from experience from dueling similar templates that they are really hard to fight, so I'm sure either one will work out fine.
Mystix17
Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:33 pm
#6
You get more state defenses from pistoleer line. Are you sure the defensive acuity doesn't take effect even while holding a 1hand weapon?
Grimror
Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:37 pm
#7
Yes. Def. Acuity is to TK as Dodge is to Fencer as Block is to Pikeman as Counter Attack is to swords.
Mystix17 wrote:
Are you sure the defensive acuity doesn't take effect even while holding a 1hand weapon?
PinkRebel
Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:10 pm
#9
Between the two choices, I would go with choice number too. Goes in hand with fencer.
hampton_hamster
Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:30 am
#10
master doc master fencer is better. u can cure states so wahts it matter spending all your points on state def. . htats my temp and i dont have a problem with anything unless its auto tick
trueFlaw
Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:34 pm
#11
Grimror wrote:
Yes. Def. Acuity is to TK as Dodge is to Fencer as Block is to Pikeman as Counter Attack is to swords.
Mystix17 wrote:
Are you sure the defensive acuity doesn't take effect even while holding a 1hand weapon?
Thats wrong, def acuity works for fencer.
Smily, do 0304 tka/fencer/4040 Doc
It has better melee/ranged def than the pistoleer, def acuity, state def.
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