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Thread: Ranger Creature to Hit bonuses and Fencer

KaliMirchi
Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:20 am
#1

Raph,



Not sure this is within your area of responsibility. But I have a feeling that it's a non issue with the Rangers. There is a tree in the Ranger profession that *only* gives creature to hit bonuses (which, as I understand it, increase your chances of doing damage in PvE) to ranged weapons. I'm not sure if anyone here besides myself has picked up any Ranger skills.... but this surely was an oversight, and should be fixed!



Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

Raphayl
Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:03 am
#2

There is also a bonus to hit creatures in the Scout profession half way up the Hunting branch. It's a accuracy modifier for any weapon (melee or ranged) when targetting a creature. Since Scouts and Rangers are all about hunting and tracking and such, I always thought it seemed in-line with their role. In fact, I made sure I reached that first accuracy bonus in Scout to take advantage of it when hunting creatures.


I can check on it though. What aspect of it seems unbalanced? Are you suggesting something like apenalty to accuracy for non-creature targets to compensate? (It will help how I phrase it to the devs.)


~Lyahpar~


La Femme Fencer


"Thrust if you love Fencers!"

JediJesse1
Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:50 am
#3

Raph I believe what he means is, in the Ranger tree there is a accuracy bonus to hitting creatures BUT when you read the description it states that it gives an accuracy bonus to ranged regular hits only. Seems like an oversight indeed. As an aspiring fencer/ranger myself I believe this deserves looking at.
KaliMirchi
Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:19 am
#4

Exactly JJ,



Ranged weapons get the bonus to hit - melee don't. Or at least, that's how the skill's description reads.




Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

KaliMirchi
Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:21 am
#5

Heya Raph,



Not unbalanced, we don't seem to get the bonus at all. Only ranged weapons do!




Seena.. realizes this isn't a priority, and there are tons of other things that are more important. Just a little point to tuck away when things 'settle down' for us. : ))




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

ShodiKGian
Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:55 am
#6

As a Fencer/Ranger/Rifleman I have to say that this seems to be a non issue. I have not noticed any significant difference between fighting creatures using rifles or with my gaffi.
Noules000
Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:30 am
#7

As a note, the creature to-hit only works on autoattacks, not specials. I'm not certain if it applies to melee attacks, but the ranger board seems to believe it does.
Sir_Voor
Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:41 am
#8

Few month ago the Creature to Hit bonuses only work with range weapons, at that time I recomenned o the ranger forum that it be changed to Range Creature to Hit bonuses and Melee Creature toDodge bonus. Meleers really don't need a to hit bonus. I been doing GCW stuff and stop follow range stuff so I don't know if anything became of it.







[`M Sir VOOR N`\

KaliMirchi
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:35 pm
#9






Noules000 wrote:
As a note, the creature to-hit only works on autoattacks, not specials. I'm not certain if it applies to melee attacks, but the ranger board seems to believe it does.





Funny... I posted this same question there, and no such observation was noted. Either way, it is not stated in the description - only ranged attacks are said to benefit.



Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

KaliMirchi
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:36 pm
#10

Well Sir Voor,



Since we didnt get a dodge bonus- I think a to hit bonus is in order.




Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

Noules000
Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:54 am
#11



KaliMirchi wrote:


Noules000 wrote:
As a note, the creature to-hit only works on autoattacks, not specials. I'm not certain if it applies to melee attacks, but the ranger board seems to believe it does.


Funny... I posted this same question there, and no such observation was noted. Either way, it is not stated in the description - only ranged attacks are said to benefit.

Seena






I think I was wrong about this - I can't find the post that I thought I read this in. It does only work with autofire and not special moves with ranged weapons (also in the description) so it seems reasonable that the description is correct about it applying only to ranged attacks.
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