Fencer Archive

Hello,

We are conducting research to help focus our efforts on providing the most effective weapons at the right price for the Fencer profession and others. We would greatly appreciate it if you would take the time to comment on the following:

• Which weapon (or weapons) are you most interested in purchasing?


• What stats (damage, speed, HAM costs, etc) are you looking for? (unsliced)


• How much would you expect to pay?

Your assistance will help weaponsmiths on all galaxies serve you better.

Thank you,

Gaderiffi Batons, Stun Batons, Vibroblades, Curved Swords. These tend to be the staple. Ryyks are neat looking, but honestly, they're a niche already filled by the curved.

Master Fencers need maximum damage, since we hit the speed cap. Novices need a balanced blade (speed and damage). Both master and novice always need lower HAM.

This is only my assessment of the fencer community. Many swear by their Ryyks, while others say the Vibroblade is worthless. The problem, we're a small community and you'll never make hundreds of sales on us. However, we are a very loyal bunch, and very understanding of your problems and needs. I would recommend (if you can) keeping communication open. i myself have a very dedicated weaponsmith who listens to what i want, makes it as well as he can, and i pay any price he asks.

the problem is, we rely on strategy, and since everyone has a different strategy, everyone wants something different. if you can take custom orders quickly and efficiently, you'll definitely make sales. i regret to say that we may be the least profitable group from a business standpoint. that would depend on your server though.

i can't give you the answer you're looking for, but mine is part. i'm sure my compatriots will add to this to give you a good overall view of the market demand and demographics.

best of luck to you!

These past few weeks, I've been to every decent weaponsmith on Shadowfire that makes melee weapons. All I want is a nice curved sword but they are nowhere to be found. The vendors are absolutely loaded with every other kind of 1h melee weapon in existence, and some nice ones at that,but there's not a decent curved sword in sight. So either no one is making them or they areextremely popular and sell as soon as they are stocked. I'm leaning towards the latter because the majority of the fencers that I meet are holding a 1h curved sword.

My primary sworddoes 91 - 216 damage @ 2.3. I've never seen another one like it and unfortunately, its durability is down to around 300 from being repaired so many times. I can only use it for special occasions now. I would buy an unsliced 1h sword but of all the times I've had anything sliced, never once have I got the slice that I wanted. I would rather pay 2, 3, even 4times as much for a good pre-sliced sword with the stats I'mlooking for, than to buy an unsliced one and waste my time and money on slices that I do not want. All I ever end up with is a faster sword. I do not want or need a faster sword.

I've got avibroblade that hits for 174 max, an nice stun baton, and various curved swords all sliced for speedbut none of them canhack down the majority of enemies like my primary sword does. All of the others have their uses at certain times against certain enemies but Iwould trade them all for another good 1h curvedsword. (cause I can buy more of those anytime) I love my sword and will be very sad to see it go without a replacement.

ill make it simply ... i hope

curved as nice dmg but ig ams... beter as a orderered weapon... imo as its ams are too high for good use and terefore not a good choice for any lv of fencer...

stun baton personally only good wit adv core and max the dmg ... ten lower the ams.. or mix it up but low inventory more of special order

adv core ganderffi is the best dmg weapon tat fencers can get.. on sunrunner we average roughly 12? - 22? in dmg and most wep smiths get the 3.5 spd... now 30% dmg slice raises ta to about 170-290 in that range while keeping te pd were master fencers dont need to wory and then if speed sliced well... any fencer can use... only one drawback .. ealt am cost.. so still kinda not a mass vendo but peronally its all i order.

te best weapon tat people can use as a fencer till tey find teir own style and nice is te vibroblade... light amo pierce with very very low hams not too mention fast enoug spd for even te lowest lvl fencer.

thats my run down and my opinion for wat it wort.. prolly not much

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Master-Kensai wrote:

ill make it simply ... i hope

curved as nice dmg but ig ams... beter as a orderered weapon... imo as its ams are too high for good use and terefore not a good choice for any lv of fencer...

stun baton personally only good wit adv core and max the dmg ... ten lower the ams.. or mix it up but low inventory more of special order

adv core ganderffi is the best dmg weapon tat fencers can get.. on sunrunner we average roughly 12? - 22? in dmg and most wep smiths get the 3.5 spd... now 30% dmg slice raises ta to about 170-290 in that range while keeping te pd were master fencers dont need to wory and then if speed sliced well... any fencer can use... only one drawback .. ealt am cost.. so still kinda not a mass vendo but peronally its all i order.

te best weapon tat people can use as a fencer till tey find teir own style and nice is te vibroblade... light amo pierce with very very low hams not too mention fast enoug spd for even te lowest lvl fencer.

thats my run down and my opinion for wat it wort.. prolly not much

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Is your Hkey broken? you seem to be having trouble... =)

Well from my stand point. I am looking for curved and stun baton's. Always lookign for a better one. I am located on Kettlemore server. Rykk blades and Rancor are of no use to us. They look ok but compared to a Curved or Baton no comparison. SO indeed if you are really interested in building for the fencer community send me a tell in game I have a few people who would be interested in them.

Cypo

Kettlemore Server

Tatoonie

Ham costs are the least of my worries with a nice curved sword. I'll take the extra damage anyday with my soon to be crazy high mind stats but youwill never seeme using a gaffi stick. I'm a fencer, not a Tusken.I can't pick up a stun baton with thinking: "Bad Boys, Bad Boys, What ya gonna do? What ya gonna do when they come for you?"

I live by the blade. It's an elegant weapon, from a more civilized age.

more and more i find myself agreeing with you, Rro. i used to not mind the gaffi because it had such great damage. but i can get a curved sword with a good slice that does nearly that much. it's usually off by about 50 points, and stylistically, i don't mind losing that 50 if i don't have to use something i find uglier the more i use it.

now if i can just get the curved from the dark jedi initiate...

ok heres my data on fencer weapons so far. Most popular currently are gaffi sticks, stun batons, vibroblades.Curves are still used quite a bit by the speed cap and high mind drain are big minuses for a lot of exprienced fencers. Ryyks while looking nice overall are bypassed due speed cap and very bad HAM. When making gaffi sticks focus on damage and purely damage.True Ham stinks on these but put an note on it recommending using tattooine sunburns and weapon powerups to make up for it. On vibroblades damage is important but not so much as the low HAM it gets naturally which is also the reason it is a popular as it is.Expect about 15/30/15HAM ratio also above 120 max dam.Stunbaton are used due to stun damage and now good dps. Just keep in mind theHAM as mind and action are both 40s.Experimenting on HAM could be interesting but i imagine that as with most weapons its not really worth it.Look for food or spices that might make up for these down falls.

Bottom line:Gaffi stick, stun batons, butter knifes, i mean vibroblades.Damage should be your main concern. Price nonslicedweapon between 10-20k for high quality. Anything higher is really a joke considering the nature of melee combat.Hook up with smuggler and chef to try to arrange deals to make up for weapons downfalls.Lastly my final suggestion is try to get damage sliced gear for sell and carge extra as a guarnteed high damage slice could boost a price up quite a bit

I like a gaffi and I could care less about ham but beign a master doc makes me a bit of an exception most people look for ham. I like the points left over after damage experimentation put into durability not ham.

I'd like to thank all the fencers who have responded so far. Your input is quite valuable.

So vibroblades... no one has mentioned them as being something they use- are they junk?

they can be essential to novice fencers (or lower, once you get the certification). if you make a vibro blade, concentrate on damage. the HAM is so naturally low, that it should be a factor.

Wow, nobody likes vibroblades?

Ok well if you weaponsmiths can create a vibroblade with 150 or more max damage, preferably as high as possible, and 2.4 or lower speed(for fencers who don't have speed cap yet), it makes it the best 1h weapon, but we see so few of those that we don't bother. You really need to start pumping them out just to get them on the bazaar and showing that you can make them. I think the biggest problem is the adv. vibro core is hard to come by, but oh man, if you can make what I am describing, I would drool over it. Mostly cause of ham costs that I see (15-25-15) on vibroblades are the most attractive part.

As of now I have a decent blade (43-143-2.2 17-28-17 sliced) and I was a little dissapointed but it still does about the same damage as my curved and has 1/2 the ham cost, so I can do special moves longer. This lowered ham cost also alows me to wear a tantel chestplate and ubese gloves.

So I think the biggest thing for a fencer is ham costs on weapons, cause that allows for two things that make the game very very good to us, more specials, and more armor!

Oh and if you can make some really nice tantel with under >100 health >30 action, and >30 mind and market it to fencers I think you would find some interested butter knifers out there!

-Nobu

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