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Thread: Best PVP strategy for MFencer vs. Jedi
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Karbal
Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:20 pm
#1
I've been grinding Mfencer .. and I'm almost there. All my experience so far has been pve. I have always played as ranged bh and this my first time in the melee arena. Please give me any tips and tried and trued tactics using my new Mfencer skills vs. those pesky jedi .. weapons, specials, etc. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Oh, my template will be this:
Master Fencer
Pistoleer 0 0 4 4
BH 3 0 0 0
Karbal
Raniok_Tasifer
Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:50 pm
#2
You need a high damage Acklay Gaffi. You may want to eat Dodge food. An intimidation bonus shirt.. and lots of luck I'm afraid. To beat a Jedi, you'd have to be really really quick..
The inability to stun them, keeps thier damage rate up (and intimidation would take longer to land).
Planetstalker
Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:25 am
#3
I had a template just like u and a450max damage gaffi. Allways opened with blind -lunge1 -dizzy. hope they fall 
then when they are on thier back what is most important is timing. they got 6sec delay on heals. I allways use bodyhit3 as main damage output put in a litle bleed now healthhit2 now and then for that "tiny" extra free damage bleed. if they heal dizzy your best bet is to reapply it before they get up. but with the heal delay u can allways get in 3-4 bodyhits before u must spam dizzy again. If u get their health far enough downu will ignore the dizzy of course and continue spam bodyhit as they will have to heal ham instead of states. If they do get up intimdate is must.
Thats the basic recipe. it wont work every time and u must adapt to your enemy but still it think it covers the basics.
Veiroi eco
then when they are on thier back what is most important is timing. they got 6sec delay on heals. I allways use bodyhit3 as main damage output put in a litle bleed now healthhit2 now and then for that "tiny" extra free damage bleed. if they heal dizzy your best bet is to reapply it before they get up. but with the heal delay u can allways get in 3-4 bodyhits before u must spam dizzy again. If u get their health far enough downu will ignore the dizzy of course and continue spam bodyhit as they will have to heal ham instead of states. If they do get up intimdate is must. Thats the basic recipe. it wont work every time and u must adapt to your enemy but still it think it covers the basics.
Veiroi eco
Karbal
Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:41 am
#4
Thanks alot, that was just what I was looking for!! I'm begining to see that the fencer prof is kinda left behind as far as decent weapons go. I have done a little looking around and research and so far the ONLY weapon I can find with any AP is the vibro blade, but the damage output didn't look all that great. Can a vibro blade with its AP1 be of any benifit vs. jedi since they can't wear armor .. won't the AP1 add 25% more damage to an unarmored opponent? If you know, what are the best stats you have ever seen on a vibro blade?Oh, one more question, does the extra melee defense from the pistoleer tree help at all or would I be better served investing the points somewhere else? Thanks for the information.
Karbal
Doratos
Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:26 pm
#5
You can get gaffi sticks with like 400 or more dmg and thats far more than the 25% bonus youll get with a vibro blade....ive never seen vibros break 200...maybe im mistaken, but i would stick with a good ole gaffi, i dont hunt jedi, but i think the VB wouldnt have the dmg to beat up a jedi with
Tnerb6969
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:53 am
#6
Ok, If ya wanna fight a jedi, solo, as a fencer...here is a few tips. INTIMIDATE and keep the jedi intimidated. This prevents him from doing as much damage to if he/she hits you. PIKATTA PIE, SNOW CAKE, KD FOOD, AND 2 BRANDIES are the food and drink ya need. If ya plan ahead, you can drop a synthsteak like 15 to 30 mins before the actual battle, that way you're stomach will be clear for the other foods right before battle. Remember, your kd food won't last longer than 10 to 15 mins. You'll need to kill the jedi before that...otherwise it's gonna be a long day for you. Use an acklay gaffi stick with the most damage possible. You need to do damage...lots of damage...and put as many states on them as possible...use a janta knife at first...then switch to gaffi...the poison will do damage and drain force power when the jedi heals the poison off. Keep hitting the jedi as much as possible and don't get frustrated...they are gonna use force healing...so you will have to get their HAM bars down several times. The trick is to do as much damage and give them as many states as quickly as possible. EAT UP THEIR FORCE POWER. When their force is down to the point that they can't heal themselves or clear states...you go for the deathblow.
As far as specific attacks...I use these macros: (I am master brawler too so you won't have intim2 or lunge2 unless u have master brawler)
/intimidate2;
/melee1hdizzy2;
/melee1hlunge2;
/melee1hblind2;
/melee1hscatterhit2;
/melee1hhit3;
use all these commands in your macros...if you have medic in your template...throw a /warcry; then /healdamage self macro in it...delays the opponent while you heal your HAM.
One more thing...jedi accuracy sux at the moment...use this to your advantage...the dodge works well (trust me...I know firsthand) if you have medic...you shouldn't have a problem with any jedi if you use a warcry healdamage macro. As long as the warcry sticks. Another good profession to bring up to help you out is TKA...TKA is awesome against jedi.
Darkmatt
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:18 pm
#7
im a
Master fencer
master pistoler
Novice smuggler
1-4-4-0
Still working in temp
Ive got a hole stack load of attachments on +9 - +14 and a max 433 griffen no p/o
I was in a fight with a jedi knight that laster 5 mins i could not kill him but he had to regenerat his life back like 15 times it would of been over if i could kd him he finnaly got smart and started attacking my mind
Kael21
Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:58 pm
#8
The basic strategy is to get them on the ground and keep them on the ground. Most jedi will run if they start running out of force so i wouldn't suggest trying to outlast them. Synthsteak is the one food i've found most useful vs. jedi.Pikatta pie is nice as well. Use dizzy hit and lunge to get them on the ground and once they're down keep them there by reapplying dizzy every time they cure it. There is a delay after they heal before they can do any actions including stand so you have to reapply during that short delay.
In regards to what weapon to use the answer is whatever you have the highest damage on. Acklay gaffi sticks would most likely be it but if you don't have one use the highest damage you've got.
Ntrx
Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:37 am
#9
i can solo a jedi knight after a long fight this is what you need:
some steak (jedi hate that)
some steak (jedi hate that)
dodge food
good buffs on all stats!!!
a high damage gaffi (the higher the better)
and a fire dot weapon
most jedi can't heal fire dots, except for master healers which will lack defences and are easy 2 kill with a good gaffi.
just stick the fire on the jedi (mind if possible) and beat the **edit** out of him, also i like to sticka high strength mind poisen on them, they can heal them but it drains a lot of force combined with the fire that they have 2 heal all the time and the damageyou do their force pool will be empty very fast, this is the time to get him dizzy and on the floor so he cant run off, and then you can say you have killed a jedi knight.
just stick the fire on the jedi (mind if possible) and beat the **edit** out of him, also i like to sticka high strength mind poisen on them, they can heal them but it drains a lot of force
combined with the fire that they have 2 heal all the time and the damageyou do their force pool will be empty very fast, this is the time to get him dizzy and on the floor so he cant run off, and then you can say you have killed a jedi knight.if you want a mind fire knive you will have a lot to do
these are getting very rare and expensive!
either grind money and buy one of the forums or camp the janta or mokk poi's!
either grind money and buy one of the forums or camp the janta or mokk poi's!
try getting a 120+ strength otherwise a good jedi will heal faster then your mind will regenerate 
good luck and go kill some jedi!
Karbal
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:04 pm
#10
How about running a "berserk 1" macro while fighting the jedi? Could that give the fencer a little more of a damage output edge in a jedi fight or is it a waste of time? Thanks.
Karbal
SiliconPirate
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:08 pm
#11
waste, berserk doesnt allow you to do any specials for the duration that it effects you
BovoTheStout
Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:28 pm
#12
Raniok_Tasifer wrote:You need a high damage Acklay Gaffi. You may want to eat Dodge food. An intimidation bonus shirt.. and lots of luck I'm afraid. To beat a Jedi, you'd have to be really really quick..The inability to stun them, keeps thier damage rate up (and intimidation would take longer to land).
Hey Raniok, great way to land intimidate is warcy the bastage and then spam intimidate until it sticks.
RoadBurner
Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:49 pm
#13
Using DoTs is a waste of time. The weapon delay is too much of a disvantage when u could be doing other things.
Also use PSG's with lightsaber res....not sure if these work tho.
IMPORTANT: JEDI WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING WILL HAVE DEFENSE VS KD FOOD AND ATTACHMENTS: ALWAYS USE LUNGE1 ON JEDI!
i also have padded tantel armor, +32 intimidate clothes with intimidate2(im master brawler). also get d vs stun clothes.
my gaf is 508max w/pu. It hits pretty frikin hard. never use stun baton. ever.
INTIMIDATION IS KEY.
Synthsteak+Pikkata Pie is ESSENTIAL! The pikkata pie makes the steak last much longer, as the jedi will hit u less. Prolly good idea to use d vs kd food too...forget canape use muon.
Use as many states as possible. Blind is the best for lowering their defenses. dizzy i dont need to explain.
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