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Thread: Got a few questions...

Stuntmansteve
Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:08 am
#1

I got a few questions...


1) Why is it that even at master fencer, everything can hit me? I became fencer in the first place because my friend told me that a master fencer could last a pretty long time againest a krayt because of it's dodge, but just a while ago I was tanking some tattered tortons, unbuffed and no armor, for a friend and after a while I had to slap on some armor because they were doing to much damage to me. While later I took off the armor and started to just slap on a blind and an intimidate but doing that usually did more damage to me then the torton. If even a tattered torton can hit me then what chance do I got againest a krayt? Does CoB really make that much of a difference? Or was my friend just full of it and the only prof that can solo a krayt is swordman?


2) Now that im master, what am I capable of? The other day, while at the ro on rori, I cought a rifleman killing some npcs so I decided to teach him a lesson by going overt and killing him. Killed him of course,but we were both unbuffed and had no armor on. I've heard stories of master fencers taking on 3 people, only buffed, with ease. Is that true? And would an acklay stun baton be good in pvp?


3) Im only master commando and master fencer, but I was thinking of going down to the geo cave and getting myself some acklay bones so then I could get my master ws friend to make me either a nice stun baton of gaffi stick. Would I stand a chance againest an acklay? Or would it waste me in a heart beat? And how rare is it for an acklay to drop acklay bones?


4) If I wanted to use my flamer in pvp for some reason, would the dodge from fencer still be in effect? And is the only way to truely be good in pvp is too have master brawler as well for the intimidate, warcry, and one-handed lunge 2 and a good acklay wep?


5) Is there really any point in being fencer, for pvp purposes,unless your rich? The only way I can see any fencer being really good in pvp is by having a good acklay stun baton or gaffi stick, which could cost millions upon millions of credits.


6) What things could I solo as master fencer, fully buffed, and pve comp on? I usually only got 10k tops in the bank, except when one of my rich buds gets me to fetch him a quest item for a couple 100k, so I really need to find something that I could possibly solo that drops something that would be worth alot so then I could buy some acklay bones or an acklay wep.


Well thats all for now Thanks in advance



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Stuntmansteve
Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:25 am
#2


I got a few questions...


1) Why is it that even at master fencer, everything can hit me? I became fencer in the first place because my friend told me that a master fencer could last a pretty long time againest a krayt because of it's dodge, but just a while ago I was tanking some tattered tortons, unbuffed and no armor, for a friend and after a while I had to slap on some armor because they were doing to much damage to me. While later I took off the armor and started to just slap on a blind and an intimidate but doing that usually did more damage to me then the torton. If even a tattered torton can hit me then what chance do I got againest a krayt? Does CoB really make that much of a difference? Or was my friend just full of it and the only prof that can solo a krayt is swordman?


2) Now that im master, what am I capable of? The other day, while at the ro on rori, I cought a rifleman killing some npcs so I decided to teach him a lesson by going overt and killing him. Killed him of course,but we were both unbuffed and had no armor on. I've heard stories of master fencers taking on 3 people, only buffed, with ease. Is that true? And would an acklay stun baton be good in pvp?


3) Im only master commando and master fencer, but I was thinking of going down to the geo cave and getting myself some acklay bones so then I could get my master ws friend to make me either a nice stun baton of gaffi stick. Would I stand a chance againest an acklay? Or would it waste me in a heart beat? And how rare is it for an acklay to drop acklay bones?


4) If I wanted to use my flamer in pvp for some reason, would the dodge from fencer still be in effect? And is the only way to truely be good in pvp is too have master brawler as well for the intimidate, warcry, and one-handed lunge 2 and a good acklay wep?


5) Is there really any point in being fencer, for pvp purposes,unless your rich? The only way I can see any fencer being really good in pvp is by having a good acklay stun baton or gaffi stick, which could cost millions upon millions of credits.


6) What things could I solo as master fencer, fully buffed, and pve comp on? I usually only got 10k tops in the bank, except when one of my rich buds gets me to fetch him a quest item for a couple 100k, so I really need to find something that I could possibly solo that drops something that would be worth alot so then I could buy some acklay bones or an acklay wep.


Well thats all for now Thanks in advance



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TitanTen
Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:26 am
#3

1. Yes CoB makes a huge difference, but unless you are extremely lucky you are going to get hit fighting a krayt so I woulndt try and solo one unbuffed and unarmored. When I blind + CoB something I usually dont get hit, but they still have the chance to so I still fight buffed.


2. In PvP I usually get targeted first so I usually die before I even get to swing at them. But 1 on 1 or against all Melee I do incredibly well. Yes Acklay batons will help you out.


3. Never fought the Acklay.


4. Not sure, and in my experience master brawler is not neccesary.


5. Well you are the meat. While people are trying to hit you your friends are doing the damage. At least thats how I feel about it.


6. I run all the POI's solo, except DWB, Geo, and NS elders. I make good money looking for Nym's vibro units. And im getting into NS killing which I hear is quite profitable.



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noggs
Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:14 pm
#4



Stuntmansteve wrote:
I got a few questions...
1) Why is it that even at master fencer, everything can hit me? I became fencer in the first place because my friend told me that a master fencer could last a pretty long time againest a krayt because of it's dodge, but just a while ago I was tanking some tattered tortons, unbuffed and no armor, for a friend and after a while I had to slap on some armor because they were doing to much damage to me. While later I took off the armor and started to just slap on a blind and an intimidate but doing that usually did more damage to me then the torton. If even a tattered torton can hit me then what chance do I got againest a krayt? Does CoB really make that much of a difference? Or was my friend just full of it and the only prof that can solo a krayt is swordman?
2) Now that im master, what am I capable of? The other day, while at the ro on rori, I cought a rifleman killing some npcs so I decided to teach him a lesson by going overt and killing him. Killed him of course, but we were both unbuffed and had no armor on. I've heard stories of master fencers taking on 3 people, only buffed, with ease. Is that true? And would an acklay stun baton be good in pvp?
3) Im only master commando and master fencer, but I was thinking of going down to the geo cave and getting myself some acklay bones so then I could get my master ws friend to make me either a nice stun baton of gaffi stick. Would I stand a chance againest an acklay? Or would it waste me in a heart beat? And how rare is it for an acklay to drop acklay bones?
4) If I wanted to use my flamer in pvp for some reason, would the dodge from fencer still be in effect? And is the only way to truely be good in pvp is too have master brawler as well for the intimidate, warcry, and one-handed lunge 2 and a good acklay wep?
5) Is there really any point in being fencer, for pvp purposes, unless your rich? The only way I can see any fencer being really good in PvP is by having a good acklay stun baton or gaffi stick, which could cost millions upon millions of credits.
6) What things could I solo as master fencer, fully buffed, and pve comp on? I usually only got 10k tops in the bank, except when one of my rich buds gets me to fetch him a quest item for a couple 100k, so I really need to find something that I could possibly solo that drops something that would be worth alot so then I could buy some acklay bones or an acklay wep.
Well thats all for now Thanks in advance




Yes, you should be looking for either Acklay Bones or an Acklay Stun Baton for PvP...And about getting hit even ppl with +125 Dodge +125 Melee Defense are still gonna get hit by a Krayt It does not matter and Swordsman are not the only people who can Solo Krayts...Swordsman are the ones who can kill the Krayt the fastest just because the have more Damage Output



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Sephia
Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:59 pm
#5

Yes i believe that not only master swordsman can solo krayts, but can a non-doctor do it?
The krayt killing template seems to be master swords/ master doctor.



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KenzoDarkron
Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:09 pm
#6


First of all you need to run some missions for cash so you can get buffs (Doc and Ent)....10k in the bank won't cut it. Try Dant or Endor and run the 10k missions solo for cash. That will give you cash to buy buffs with. Also get some air cake which increases your chances of not being hit.....it helps tremedously. To be successful in PvP you will need a good stun baton or gaffi or both and these can cost alot of money (powerups help to make your weapon better though).


Fencers can solo many things but it takes skill and practice because we are more about not getting hit than hitting hard so it is not wise to run into a fightspamming specials. Our weapons can also have high HAM costs, so again...be careful with specials. Best bit of advice though is to examine your target (PvE) to see their resists....that will determine what weapon will have the most success.


CoB is essential. Set up a CoB macro if you don't have one already...


Good luck with Fencer.


Message Edited by KenzoDarkron on 01-25-2005 05:12 PM



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kAotiC_HeRo
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:27 pm
#7


  1. Have you tried using Center of Being? It increases the potency of your Defenses... Also, be aware that Intimidate removes your dodge function altogether.

  2. Fencer is more of a Defensive role... They are NOT damage dealers, they are technically tanks but cannot dish out the damage in PvE, However, Fencers are great in Group or Solo PvP, Provided you know exactly what your doing and who to attack first. Acklay Batons are over-rated... You will need more out of a baton in which the MINIMUM DAMAGE and MAXIMUM DAMAGE are as close as possible as it is the MINIMUM Damage that breaks through any Melee Mitigation an opponent may have. High Damage Batons is only useful against ranged individuals because as they do not have any melee mitigation.

  3. Take a support friend with you... Or pick up some Medic. Commando/Fencer isn't a great PVE template but if you really enjoy it and aren't killed all the time, by all means. You can't really solo the Acklay unless you have Swordsman or Doctor in your builds.

  4. No the Dodge would not be prevalent when using a Commando certified weapon... It only helps when you're wielding a fencer type of weapon. The only exception to this rule is the Pistol tree for dodge... Since they are similar types of Defenses you can wield a pistol and still use the dodge you have from Fencer.

  5. It takes a good 10 million to become a "set" fencer... Be willing to drop tons of cash on batons/gaffis and Synsteak... Remember FOODS ARE YOUR FRIENDS.

  6. Forget about Nightsisters or Singing Mountain Clan, they all have Kinetic and Stun Resistances. I recommend Tuskens or Stormtroopers.

Hope this helps... If you have anymore questions, I wrote a guide to Fencer and the link is in my Signature.




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kAotiC_HeRo
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:34 pm
#8

Replied to your first post... Check it out please.



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K1k1nth3m0uff
Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:07 pm
#9






kAotiC_HeRo wrote:


  1. Have you tried using Center of Being? It increases the potency of your Defenses... Also, be aware that Intimidate removes your dodge function altogether.

  2. Fencer is more of a Defensive role... They are NOT damage dealers, they are technically tanks but cannot dish out the damage in PvE, However, Fencers are great in Group or Solo PvP, Provided you know exactly what your doing and who to attack first. Acklay Batons are over-rated... You will need more out of a baton in which the MINIMUM DAMAGE and MAXIMUM DAMAGE are as close as possible as it is the MINIMUM Damage that breaks through any Melee Mitigation an opponent may have. High Damage Batons is only useful against ranged individuals because as they do not have any melee mitigation.

  3. Take a support friend with you... Or pick up some Medic. Commando/Fencer isn't a great PVE template but if you really enjoy it and aren't killed all the time, by all means. You can't really solo the Acklay unless you have Swordsman or Doctor in your builds.

  4. No the Dodge would not be prevalent when using a Commando certified weapon... It only helps when you're wielding a fencer type of weapon. The only exception to this rule is the Pistol tree for dodge... Since they are similar types of Defenses you can wield a pistol and still use the dodge you have from Fencer.

  5. It takes a good 10 million to become a "set" fencer... Be willing to drop tons of cash on batons/gaffis and Synsteak... Remember FOODS ARE YOUR FRIENDS.

  6. Forget about Nightsisters or Singing Mountain Clan, they all have Kinetic and Stun Resistances. I recommend Tuskens or Stormtroopers.

Hope this helps... If you have anymore questions, I wrote a guide to Fencer and the link is in my Signature.








ok, i agree with a few of thesem but the rest im going to have to correct


1. agree


2. disagree. fencer by itself is a great PvE proffesion, you just need to know how to use it. my acklay stun baton is only 177-222 damage and i still get a bunch of damage out of it, but for PvE, you should look for a gaffi stick, preferrably one that does somewhere near 100-200 damage and 2.0-2.6 speed, which commonly arent too expencive and will last you a long while.


3. get novice medic definitly, and always stay buffed when doing something like the geo labs, and be SURE to have brandy and canape on you at all times, it is a life saver. and if you know how to use it, and have a good template to go with it you can solo the acklay with a stun baton easy, i know, ive never killed the acklay with something other than fencer.


4. agree


5.ive spent about 1.5 mil in my entire fencer career, and 1.1 million of that was for my stun baton. and ive never used synthesteak, i hear it can be useful, but above all stick with brandy and canape


6. not true. last night i went and killed about 20 NS stalkers and singing mountain clan huntresses with my gaffi stick, the stalkers hav 100% resistance too stun, but whip out your gaffi and teach them who is boss. im not sure about anything higher than a NS stalker, but i know that it is a pretty high level of NS on its own, you might want to check the stats and possibly stick to swordsman when taking elders, though


hope all of this helps you out





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furrycat
Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:08 am
#10

Quoth K1k1nth3m0uff,

> you can solo the acklay with a stun baton easy

With Acklay having AR2 I wouldn't try this myself. Someone would be along to killsteal me in short order. And since his stun and kinetic resists are both 30% I probably wouldn't want the baton even if I did give it a try. /raise you for doing it.

> last night i went and killed about 20 NS stalkers and singing mountain clan
> huntresses with my gaffi stick

Nightsisters love the high-powered taste of Nym vibroblades.

> you might want to check the stats and possibly stick to swordsman when taking elders

100% kinetic, 100% stun. Tank for a group or avoid.




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Pink-Floyd
Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:32 am
#11

Fencer isnt good for soloing krayts or elders, but you can help your buddy ou a bunch by tanking; wear armor, have a CoB macro going at all times, and keep your prey intimidated, and you wont take much damage. Not to mention blind, which will further reduce the amount of damage you take. Fencer is very good at PvP if your oponent doesnt have stun armor and PSG; if they do, you are generally screwed



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K1k1nth3m0uff
Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:06 pm
#12


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Message Edited by K1k1nth3m0uff on 02-05-2005 06:08 PM



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Pink-Floyd
Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:32 pm
#13

Fencer isnt good for soloing krayts or elders, but you can help your buddy ou a bunch by tanking; wear armor, have a CoB macro going at all times, and keep your prey intimidated, and you wont take much damage. Not to mention blind, which will further reduce the amount of damage you take. Fencer is very good at PvP if your oponent doesnt have stun armor and PSG; if they do, you are generally screwed



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