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Thread: template question, please have a look

Othdrakk
Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:33 am
#1


I took a break just as CU came in the picture, got back a while ago but i've been playing my jedi

mostly. My alt was a ranged combat toon. I use to love melee before cu and before i became jedi.

So last night i deleted my alt (as i wanted another race too) and gonna try out some melee sh1t!


What do you think about this one


Master Fencer, TKM, Master Brawler, Swordsman x-x-3-x, Medic x-x-4-x


though I have +24 Healing Eff (pre-cu). In my clothes for the sake of not having Doc 4-x-x-x.


this should be pretty strong in pve, but how about pvp? do you have to have ranged to be a threat there now?




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Shojjii
Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:28 am
#2

you certaintly don't have to be ranged to be a threat. I'm in a fencer template, and I can take anything but really good jedi down with relative ease. That looks like it might be a decent template, the only problem beaing your healing will be low. Might work nicely



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quitch
Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:03 am
#3






Othdrakk wrote:


I took a break just as CU came in the picture, got back a while ago but i've been playing my jedi

mostly. My alt was a ranged combat toon. I use to love melee before cu and before i became jedi.

So last night i deleted my alt (as i wanted another race too) and gonna try out some melee sh1t!


What do you think about this one


Master Fencer, TKM, Master Brawler, Swordsman x-x-3-x, Medic x-x-4-x


though I have +24 Healing Eff (pre-cu). In my clothes for the sake of not having Doc 4-x-x-x.


this should be pretty strong in pve, but how about pvp? do you have to have ranged to be a threat there now?






i beat most ranged in pvp.

that is good... free armor, mast fencer, AB, but you are lacking in healing.



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Giant2005
Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:48 am
#4

TKM isn't any good any more after the AB slice came into existence, they are by no means the best tanks or good at anything any more, all they are is cheap....So if u want to be cheap then by all means thats a good template, but if u can afford better, the undeniably best melee template is Master fencer, Swords 0044 TKA 0100 and Doc 4034 (Well you can deny it if your a pikemen fan! and fair enough too - gotta love that aoe business)



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Fredwroc
Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:18 am
#5

Giant2005, while I understand where you are coming from, I do not believe there is any one "best melee template". Armor Break slices have not completely negated a TKMs usefulness, as TKMs posess the ability to wear armor, just like any other class, and can recieve those same benefits. TKMs also recieve the largest amount of ranged and melee defense, followed by pikemen, swordsmen, and then fencer. Combining TKM with Swordsman will give you access to the most damaging special attacks in the melee tree with the best overall defenses without armor for PvE and many opponents, such as ranged, as they do no have an armor break, and the best defenses with a good set of armor for those tougher Jedi or meleers.


While I believe TKM is incredibly viable there are alternative templates without it that can do just as well as long as you keep the equipment updated;


Master Swords/x4x4 Fencer/x3xx TKA/4xx4 Doc, provides you with the best accuracy and speed for both One-handed and Two-handed weapons in a dabbler template, as well as improved CoB, the working fencer attacks, and swordsmans incredible power. In my respec time I tried this template out for the twelve hour period I was allowed before my next respec, and with some decent armor (not AB sliced), I was able to compete with and defeat many Jedi in duels as well as every melee player I fought.


Master Fencer/xx34 Swordsman/x4xx TKA/4xx4 Doc, is very similar to the above template. You won't be able utilize Two-handed weapons and I believe you're accuracy and speed will be similar if not slightly lower, with one handed weapons, but in my opinion, being a glorious master fencer is well worth the shots this template takes. With a well sliced and puped Junti Mace of Blade of Nyenthi'oris you will be coming close or matching most Master Swordsman damage, and in the long run, when Blind and Bleed are fixed, you will have access to the most powerful DoTand a strong accuracy modifier.


Master Pikeman/Master Brawler/Swords xx44/4xx4 Doc, my calculations might be a little off with this template, but I had something similar to this during the respec period. It only reaches cl 71, but is as good as an CL 80 template if you know how to play it. Pike don't do much damage, in fact, they're pretty much the worst in the game, as in DPS TKA usually runs circles around them, but this template is incredibly versitile with the ability to tank well, and modify thier opponent greatly with state effects. Its also very fun to play, and if I wasn't in love with fencer (and hadn't invested so much in my AAs and weapons) I'd probably be running around with this template right now. If you don't mind doing less damage, you could have x4x4 Fencer/Novice Swords instead of the Swordsxx44 I believe, and recieve crippling strike for the kiters and binding strike for those good action users.



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quitch
Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:24 am
#6






Fredwroc wrote:

Giant2005, Master Swords/x4x4 Fencer/x3xx TKA/4xx4 Doc, isa better temp than yours. have a nice day









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quitch
Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:28 am
#7






Giant2005 wrote:
TKM isn't any good any more after the AB slice came into existence, they are by no means the best tanks or good at anything any more, all they are is cheap....So if u want to be cheap then by all means thats a good template, but if u can afford better, the undeniably best melee template is Master fencer, Swords 0044 TKA 0100 and Doc 4034 (Well you can deny it if your a pikemen fan! and fair enough too - gotta love that aoe business)






i am denying it, why master fencer? there are better PHs, mine is better than any fencer weapon: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=298366


sorry btw, just got the pic up and feeling proud about it =p. but that ph makes mastering swords better than fencer, and mastering swords gives you more workng specials. crit hit, power hit, head hit, AB, area taunt forpve, you can use a PH.fencer is broken to death as of now, and the best pvp temp IMO does not involve either tkm or mfencer. (it might involve master fencer if they ever fix fencer though)




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AngrySmuggler
Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:22 pm
#8






quitch wrote:





Giant2005 wrote:
TKM isn't any good any more after the AB slice came into existence, they are by no means the best tanks or good at anything any more, all they are is cheap....So if u want to be cheap then by all means thats a good template, but if u can afford better, the undeniably best melee template is Master fencer, Swords 0044 TKA 0100 and Doc 4034 (Well you can deny it if your a pikemen fan! and fair enough too - gotta love that aoe business)






i am denying it, why master fencer? there are better PHs, mine is better than any fencer weapon: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=298366


sorry btw, just got the pic up and feeling proud about it =p. but that ph makes mastering swords better than fencer, and mastering swords gives you more workng specials. crit hit, power hit, head hit, AB, area taunt forpve, you can use a PH.fencer is broken to death as of now, and the best pvp temp IMO does not involve either tkm or mfencer. (it might involve master fencer if they ever fix fencer though)






Not the template it's what you do with it. I eat these wannabe uba melee/doctor kiddies for breakfast. There was very few melee on valcyn until I start to show whatit was capable of. I have alot of melee complain it's my fault that there ware so many melee running aorund on Valcyn.


A lot of people have no idea how I do as well as a fencer. I can beat Jedi, TKMs, Pikeman, Swordsman and other fencers if I put a little effort in and don't get bored and careless halfway through a duel. they say I have better equipment, but the truth is I know what the hell I'm doing with what I've got.


Some uba melee kiddie was throwing down duels in theed. I was on my alt which is a master Bh, master Carbiner, merchant 0004 KD, snare, 2 power shots that's all the specials worht anything in this template). She has stock composite armour and stock E(some number) Carbine. Stims some food that's it. Now after having this kid not wanting to start the duel further than 5m I wiped the floor with him he couldn't get near me and ended the duel when I got him down to about 1/4 health. Now was it my ubatemplate? no, was it it my equipment? no. It was what I was doing with it and what I know I could do with it.


So my adivce, is choose a template you are going to enjoy, don't listen to anyone when they say you should go this template because it's FOTM and everything else sucks. If you are a good PvPer you can make any template work to your advantage.





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