Fencer Archive

I have been reading a LOT of complaints about the fencer's not being true "fencer's" because of things like gadriffi baton and the stun baton. So I figured I'd answer everyone's question, since I had the same question as well. I got this straight from Raphayl's post. When SWG was working with the brawler tree they were trying to figure out a name for one handed style fighters, apparently it was between deulist and fencer. For whatever reason fencer was the choice and it simply represents a one handed fighting technique. It does not mean and actual fencer. This was simply the decision made for a name. With that being said, yes duel wielding would be cool, but I could only see it fair if the second weapon were more of a defensive weapon than an actual offensive weapon. And with that being said, Teras Kasi are too powerful

I think the best way to implement duel wielding would be to make dodge non functional when duel wielding. That would make a fencer totally offensive instead of defencesive like we are now. So when it came out not everyone would duel wield it would be like for special purposes.

Fencers are not alone, Pikemen's best weapon is a LANCE. We have no pike.

*sighs* Gotta love SOE eh?

I'd really like to see fencers become more graceful and elegant, and less about hitting people with clubs, sticks, and knives.

I think "Fencer" is a very appropriate name for this profession. I don't think people should focus image of the Olympic fencer, or even the high-society duelists of recent centuries, although that is a bit closer. You have to go back further.

For Western fencing, a distinct separation between battlefield swordsmanship and "fencing" emerged during the Renaissance, with the emergence of larger cities. People began to carry light swords to defend themselves, and developed their own techniques and schools to teach them.

Here's where we get this distinction: the use of heavy swords was taught exclusively to the fighting class: knights, etc. The lower classes, including criminals, learned from "Schools of Defence"-- which is where we get the term "fencing." Depending on the region, this could include all kinds of weapons including clubs, knives, staffs, etc.

When street dueling became an upper-class practice-- it's the same way today-- all "street" trends get embraced by the rich sooner or later. It still goes on today, which is why we have rich suburbs filled with privileged kids who act like gangbangers.

I understand 2-hand weapons as being more battlefield, armor piercing weapons, and fencer weapons as urban streetfighting weapons like the vibroblade or the stun baton, and cultural weapons like the ryyk and the gaderiffi.

As for pikemen, I think pike and polearm are fairly interchangeable, pike is a fairly broad term. In fact the term pike comes from the Latin "piccus" (as in the Spanish bullfighting term "picador"), and means "lance."

On dual-wielding-- a good decision would have to be made when they implement this, but I'm not sure everyone will be happy. Some would argue that using two weapons adds to offense, some would argue it's a defensive technique.

And Swordsman have a hammer. hahaha Talk about backasswards

Very good response, you know your history, I'll give you that. At least someone can explain it to it's full extent this way.

I would like to hold my sword upside down, i've seen fighting styles like that and it looks cool, why do pikemen get to hold their stuff wrong???

Regarding swordsmen having a hammer....

The Fighting Style of a Warhammer is nearly identical to that of a greatsword... great hacking motions in large arcs and thrusts. place a warhammer in the hands of someone who is expert at a Greatsword/Zwiehander, and you'll see him hit slightly slower but just as effectivly.

Same thing for our stun batons and Gad Bats our style allows the same strikes to be done with different weapons... if we were based off classic one handed fighting techniques it would be specific to each weapon but that wouldn't be fun.