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Look.

I'm tired of people coming to the Teras Kasi boards and calling nerf, when the Fencer is actually CONSIDERABLY more powerful. Their Defensive mods are amazing, and their COB makes them inpregnable to attack. Not to mention ALL of their defence modifiers with the exception of toughness are much higher and considerably more effective than Teras Kasi.

The worst part is that what happens is they are easily stacked with other proffessions, making pistoleer/fencers and Tka/fencers PVP gods, and yet everyone seems to mistake anything succeeding at melee as having something to do with Teras kasi, and thus crys nerf.

Look.

I hate to call you out. But if Teras Kasi deserve to get nerfed, the Fencers deserve to recieve double the punishment.

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Amrien_Talfrey wrote:

Look.

I'm tired of people coming to the Teras Kasi boards and calling nerf,

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Look.

im tired of people coming to the fencing forms and whining.

Also you see tka being able to attack any ham bar they want, they get medtiation, they get insane accuray and damage. Dont whine about fencers and be treated they WAY you want to be treated. TKA cob is brokenk right now and once its fixed you will be godly again.

The pistoleer/fencer will prolly be divided into different dodgesnext patch and i agree with that one

lol

"You can attack any HAM bar you want"

Yeah, but for meager amount of damage, such small damage in fact, as to be called trivial and infactorable into our overall balance.

Ask any Teras Kasi, how often do they use those attacks?

The answer is that they don't, they are useless, because they deal normal damage to a single bar. It is only useful as a final blow. and only if that final blow is around 100 damage or less in PvP or 400 damage or less in PvE.

And I only am doing this because the TKA board is plagued with such posts, so I decided to return the favor.

Bringing a little light to your situation, since so many Fencers have done so to ours.

Please close this, I was being stupid and offensive when it was written, and would now prefer it removed.

Thank You.

Are you certain it was Fencers coming to your board calling for a nerf? I support, but officially and unoffically, all melee professions. I support the TK Correspondent in any way I can, and do not wish for any profession to be nerfed. Granted there IS a Correspondent that seems actively interested in nerfing just about everything be this person wants more of a challenge, and believes it's in everyone elses best interest to make things tougher rather than trying to represent the feelings of this person's community. But it isn't me (and I want name the name).

I encourage all Fencers to support their fellow melee professions. Perhaps you are pointing your guns in the wrong direction?

Amrien thanks for accepting that your post was out of line.

Please remember that some of us would never do what you initially described, in fact I'd venture to say that those of us who have been here (Fencers) since the begining so sighed a breath of relief when we did get our little boost that we would be afraid to ever say the "N" word just on the off chance that our profession goes back to being as useless as it once was.

Which was back in the day when anything but TKM or Pistoleer or Bountyhunter was a waste of time.

Some of us stuck it out thru that, thru the myriad of melee related bugs, thru the massive XP break early on, and are simply happy finally at being on par with some classes.

So chill and welcome to the Fencer Forum, and trust me when we say we know your pain... us old Fencers are the ones who most know the pain.

So your attitude is "Look, if we wanna **edit** up our own community fine, but we wanna bring another profession down with us for kicks!" If so you are a sickminded person.

Ter kasi meditation is basicaly the doctor tree lets compare

Doctor you need to get master medic to get doctor

Tka you need master unarmed (4 skills) to get meditation

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doctor you need to harvest resoucres and craft your arse off and heal people to finaly be able to cure deases and poison

Tka you need to master meditation and then you can cure bleed, poision and deases WITHOUT crafting

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doctor again you need to craft and gather resoucres to buff

tka you need to hit meditate then power boost and your buffed NO crafting

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Doctor need to craft you wound kits and to use them it requires mind

tka press meditation and you auto heal your wound NO mind cost NO crafting

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not to mention you being able to get yourself out of incapation (basicaly a revive, possible save from DB)

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Tera kasi doesnt need to be nerf Meditation needs to be nerfed thats the ONLY thing i see that is making tera kasi to powerful

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and yes i do realise ANYONE can have meditation just from learning 9 skills thats why it needs to be nerfed

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Amrien_Talfrey wrote:

Look.

I'm tired of people coming to the Teras Kasi boards and calling nerf, when the Fencer is actually CONSIDERABLY more powerful. Their Defensive mods are amazing, and their COB makes them inpregnable to attack. Not to mention ALL of their defence modifiers with the exception of toughness are much higher and considerably more effective than Teras Kasi.

The worst part is that what happens is they are easily stacked with other proffessions, making pistoleer/fencers and Tka/fencers PVP gods, and yet everyone seems to mistake anything succeeding at melee as having something to do with Teras kasi, and thus crys nerf.

Look.

I hate to call you out. But if Teras Kasi deserve to get nerfed, the Fencers deserve to recieve double the punishment.

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Can't believe there is such a bad loser in this game

um. if u say tka/fencers r so godly. i say tka should be nerfed. tka/fencers wouldnt be so godly then.

Some of you guys really got issues, calling a guy a loser cuz he gets tired of hearing all you whine like biatches about nerfing his class. Sad fact is that he loves his class as much as you love your class and gets pissed when someone else looks at his green yard saying that his yard is greener than yours and therefore it needs to be nerfed. Having been a master TKM at one time and now a Master Fencer I can surely tell you that a TKM cant even hold a stick up to a Master Fencer. So what if TKM's have meditation, this isnt a class based game so get used to it if you want meditation then train in the stupid skill. So what if tkm's deal more damage than fencers, fencers have bleeds and a working COB therefore we can take out multiple opponents at one time easily while TKM have to beat each npc one at a time instead of beating on one while letting the others bleed to death. TKM's need to be nerfed? Im sure that must be due to the fact that a fully buffed TKM cant take 2 80% to all resists force sensitive npc's at a time while a fencer can take around 6 at a time with COB and Bleeds. Yep I see a nerf in the near future for them FOW, med healing and powerboost are just too **edit** uber for them.

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Demenshia wrote:

Tka you need to master meditation and then you can cure bleed, poision and deases WITHOUT crafting

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tka you need to hit meditate then power boost and your buffed NO crafting

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tka press meditation and you auto heal your wound NO mind cost NO crafting

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not to mention you being able to get yourself out of incapation (basicaly a revive, possible save from DB)

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but meditation doesn't really equal doctor.
Docs can heal other people. They can cure other player's wounds, bleeds, poisons, and diseases. They can also heal pets.

Doctor buffs increase all 6 non mind stats by a considerable amount, usually over 1500 and up to 3000. Powerboost increases only the primary ham bars by 1/2 the user's mind (and it doesn't stack with buffs/drugs/food anymore).

A player cannot meditate while in any kind of "state" meaning that meditation cannot be used to cure said states. Doctors can cure states, and can use their stims and such while dizzy, stunned, blinded, and intimidated perfectly fine.

Force of will works once per hour, and even then it has a chance to fail. It's FAR from having a doc around to revive you.

Just had to get that out of my system.

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Amrien_Talfrey wrote:

lol

"You can attack any HAM bar you want"

Yeah, but for meager amount of damage, such small damage in fact, as to be called trivial and infactorable into our overall balance.

Ask any Teras Kasi, how often do they use those attacks?

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Gee, um, all the time? I see TKA's coming at me and I know they're going to hit my mind pool. A fight between me and him resulted in me getting db'd. Why? Well, I could go for either a random HAM pool or his buff'd health pool. 2 riflemen and a fencer later, he limped away with 1 point of mind. Stupid DoT change...

He wasn't a master TKA either, of course, I'm not a master fencer, but I am a Master Doctor and had a nice set ofbuffs. PvP is borked since it all comes down to who can do the most damage against the mind pool. In the case of TKA vs Fencer, the TKA wins.