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Thread: Fencer/Doc any fun?
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Brainplay
Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:42 am
#14
Fencer/Doctor = GREAT defenses vs. all classes, ability to heal any states (dizzy, blind, intimidate,stun), ability to heal yourself from 10 to full health even while buffed in one shot, ability to cure poisons and diseases (making CM's useless and scared of you), and even putting out that nasty mind fire that some poor sap spent millions to buy. Throw in the fact that most armorsmiths are too lazy to make stun layered chestplates and your stun baton tears through 90% composite like a hot knife through butter.
Lets not forget the ability to never have to wait in line in the starport to get a buff AND you'll have enough points left over to go up the TK meditation tree. You'll be really popular in a short period of time 
For anyone about to say something about CM's and havla just remember that a cure C goes through most stacked poisons in a single shot and if it doesn't then 2 will. Both of which take less than 10 seconds to use and it takes a full 10 seconds before a poison ticks for the first time. CM's are rooted while they throw but you can cure on the run. When I see a Master Doctor with a stun baton charging me I forget the MIND poison and pull out the accuracy food and dxr-6b rifle and pray that my headshots land.
I have a fencer/doctor/tk med on another server and its extremely fun to play. The only downside is that in PvE we lack alot of dps if the creature isn't vulnerable to stunand has light armor ratings. Vibroblades just dont make the grade since we dont get the +250 damage bonus like TKM's or medium AP.
OditeFosore
Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:43 am
#15
FantasticPlastic wrote:
The problem with Fencer in PVE is not that the mobs can hit us, it's that we have no armor piercing. I'm a Master Fencer and it can take me and a TKM friend upwards of an hour to kill a Tusken Observer or a Nightsister Elder. Several TKMs and I once fought Axkva Min for so long that we had to take turns backing out to re-buff during the fight. Add a Swordsman or a Rifleman in the mix and these things can be killed in 10 minutes or less.
Fencers are great in PVP, and we can be fantastic tanks in PVE, but no armor piercing means long, slow battles.
Odeko Resci
Kettemoor
Agreed. I actually like the idea of being the low-damage, super-tank for a group so that the other members can pull out the damage weapons and whail away without worrying about being hit. In most cases there is no problem with this, but if you're going up against a super battle droid, tusken observer, NS elder or similar,there is little to no chance of dodge working due to their accuracy modifiers, yet you still live. 2h swordsmen, pikes, and tka's all also live in the same situation. That just means that the other melee profs can tank as well as a fencer and can do more damage. I'm sure this issue is up on the blocks for the combat revamp, but at the moment, PVE is dominated by swordsmen and, of course, riflemen.
I don't think fencer should ever be a dominant solo PVE, but I would love to see fencers as the best PVE tanks, getting hit very little even by high-end mobs and being a great group prof for high-end dungeons etc. Otherwise, increasing the damage output of fencers has more justification if have the same defenses as other profs against hard mobs. 
My $.02
einm
Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:54 am
#16
EXACTLY!
Straker_Atrella wrote:
It depends, if you want to kill stuff, Doc and 2HS would be better.
However, if your the type of Doc who likes being errrr a Doc, meaning healing people, removing disease, taking care of your group, Fencer is a great profession.
You will be tough to kill. Not getting hit much yourself, means you can focus on others.
Fd3sBass
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:04 pm
#17
FantasticPlastic wrote:
The problem with Fencer in PVE is not that the mobs can hit us, it's that we have no armor piercing. I'm a Master Fencer and it can take me and a TKM friend upwards of an hour to kill a Tusken Observer or a Nightsister Elder. Several TKMs and I once fought Axkva Min for so long that we had to take turns backing out to re-buff during the fight. Add a Swordsman or a Rifleman in the mix and these things can be killed in 10 minutes or less.
Fencers are great in PVP, and we can be fantastic tanks in PVE, but no armor piercing means long, slow battles.
Odeko Resci
Kettemoor
Axkva Min is 100% resistant to Kinetic, and to Stun...You cant damage her at all with Fencer or TKA...Just so you know
Blueflame105
Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:17 pm
#18
Fencer doc + mind DoT wepaons+ area blind+ constant intim heal= one S.O.B to take down
0Mandalorian0
Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:43 pm
#19
Fencer/Doc for PVE is horible...I was only that for a few days then I droped and picked up swordsman. You can barily touch anything with medium armor. It sucked. In PVPI was pretty well set. There defencse is awsome and it took forever to kill me unless a rifleman blasted my mind.
FantasticPlastic
Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:48 pm
#20
"Axkva Min is 100% resistant to Kinetic, and to Stun...You cant damage her at all with Fencer or TKA...Just so you know "
So I guess I was hallucinating about the damage we were doing to her during the 3+ hours we fought Axkva.
Just so you know, 100% doesn't mean 100%, some damage does get through. Very little, which is why it took so long. Once she got to 50% health, she healed herself too fast to damage, and we focused on mind, using DOTs poison, disease and fire on her too.
Obviously with Fencer and TKM this would not be my preferred way to kill Axkva. Swordsman and Rifle would do it much much easier.
But it can be done... just so you know.
Odeko Resci
So I guess I was hallucinating about the damage we were doing to her during the 3+ hours we fought Axkva.
Just so you know, 100% doesn't mean 100%, some damage does get through. Very little, which is why it took so long. Once she got to 50% health, she healed herself too fast to damage, and we focused on mind, using DOTs poison, disease and fire on her too.
Obviously with Fencer and TKM this would not be my preferred way to kill Axkva. Swordsman and Rifle would do it much much easier.
But it can be done... just so you know.
Odeko Resci
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