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Thread: How are you finding fencer in the CU test?

MaxPhoenix
Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:58 am
#14

what lvl 60 creature is worth hunting at triple master? if your hunting its for cash or loot, not for the sake of hunting



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NaRfdk
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:30 am
#15


Daigoro202 wrote:


MaxPhoenix wrote:
what lvl 60 creature is worth hunting at triple master? if your hunting its for cash or loot, not for the sake of hunting



This raises a good point. I actually like the interface and the new stats and skills, I tried out many templates and found one that I liked. But I'm not quite sure where the individual player character falls in the scheme of things. What is supposed to be a challenge to hunt, and what should be easy hunting for cash or resources?

I fought a lair of Giant Squills, level 65, it was interesting, I was never hurt too badly, but it took a while to win. It was a fun challenge, a lot of tactics involved, not just a hack and slash situation. On the other hand I wasn't able to solo a kimogila (didn't catch the level), and got one-shot incapped by a tusken observer (level 225).

This is a big implication of a major rebalance. What is it going to be like fighting day to day, if high-end content must now be tanked, mezzed, crippled, and rooted, while content that we were accustomed to grinding must now be handled with strategy? It's really like taking all the content and dropping it in a new game with a new range of difficulty.

Otherwise, I did enjoy the template that I came up with. I would have liked to use a fencer/ranged template like I always have, but choosing ranged and mixed seems to limit both your power, and your choice of specials. Mixing two melee profs, or two ranged profs, greatly boosts your stats, and gives you a wide range of specials and combos. I chose Fencer/Pikeman and really liked the ability to use Pike spin attacks while wielding the acid sword, without ever having to swap weapons. In fact if I do this template on live, I may never buy any polearms.

But again, I think the biggest learning curve will be figuring out what content is solo and what's group-only, or what's easy and what's high-end. This has a lot of implications, including group availabilty, the economy, and the distribution of classes throughout the player base.






But what lvl are you if it takes time to kill a lair of lvl 60 when you are lvl 80 it is ridiculesyou should be able to kill stuff at your own lvl solo, not totally easy but with out to much trouble. And as it is right now you cant kill anything your own lvl.



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rayshaun103
Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:32 pm
#16

I've PVP'd a bit with a few different Fencer templates and found out that we can be quite deadly. It's going to take some getting used to all of the icons for people who haven't tested before, but I believe a lot of people are going to pick up fencer. The only thing you really have to worry about is picking up another profession with good defense.



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Daigoro202
Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:17 am
#17






NaRfdk wrote:

But what lvl are you if it takes time to kill a lair of lvl 60 when you are lvl 80 it is ridiculesyou should be able to kill stuff at your own lvl solo, not totally easy but with out to much trouble. And as it is right now you cant kill anything your own lvl.






Well, that's my point. It wasn't difficult by any means, but it had the pacing of something more like a boss NPC fight. I was leven 80, Master Fencer/Master Pikeman/Master Brawler. The squills were 65. I was testing Fencer Body Hit and Pikerman Impale, and both must be the basic damage specials, because they were both doing identical damage. If you want the fight to go by faster, you need to break their armor and use Binding Strike to kill their regeneration. If you don't this, it will definitely take longer. I really did'n't bother with any offensive or defensive effects because I wasn't having trouble hitting them, and they weren't damaging me.


If I had just played this for the first time, I would have thought it was a nice, challenging fight that required some thought to win. As I said, I like the new emphasais on tactics. But, if we are required to use thought and effort on creatures that used to be grinding fodder, many players will see this as a nerf.

Message Edited by Daigoro202 on 04-19-2005 06:51 PM






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I8TheWorm
Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:21 am
#18



SomeD00d wrote:
The problems of crashing are keeping me from testing PvP combat.




Ditto. I had just enough time to whack a few noob creatures before my first ctd. I travelled to Tatooine and ctd'd again. Just when I got outside the city I ctd'd again. So I haven't tested much.

What little testing I did was as a MFencer and a MPikeman (since they got our current role in combat). Of course, on noob creatures, there wasn't much to each fight, but I took considerably less damage against multiple creatures as a pikeman (as intended). As they were typically gone with one hit with either weapon, pikes seemed to win out.

If I can get on for more than 10 min at a time, I'll test more.



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UbifaA
Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:01 pm
#19






MaxPhoenix wrote:

what lvl 60 creature is worth hunting at triple master? if your hunting its for cash or loot, not for the sake of hunting







squills...i was killing these with ease (it took a while though) they were 60, and im master fencer/master rifles.


they werent even scratching me

K1k1nth3m0uff
Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:53 pm
#20

master fencer/ m brawler/ m CH is the temp ive tried so far..and i love it





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TalusianRogue
Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:54 pm
#21

Still rocking fencer/doctor, did as well as ever =)



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MaxPhoenix
Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:17 am
#22

for the most part you have to unlearn what you have learned if you are to enjoy it. i played my guy up to novice fencer before i used the frog and i was enjoying it. when i used the frog i ran off to dath to do what i normally do (rancors) to find out it didn't work so well lol. Alot of us will be better off replaying fencer from 0 so we can lose our bad habits



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I8TheWorm
Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:20 am
#23






MaxPhoenix wrote:

for the most part you have to unlearn what you have learned if you are to enjoy it. i played my guy up to novice fencer before i used the frog and i was enjoying it. when i used the frog i ran off to dath to do what i normally do (rancors) to find out it didn't work so well lol. Alot of us will be better off replaying fencer from 0 so we can lose our bad habits







Except the role has completely changed. If you enjoyed being a defensive player before (as I did) then switching profs is more than likely what you'll have to do.


I tested master fencer and master doc, my current template, for about 5 hours on TC. Turns out I had more fun as a master pikeman and master combat medic.


That being said, I didn't enjoy combat very much. I dueled 4 times, going 2-2. I group hunted PvE. I group hunted PvP as well. I didn't really enjoy any of it. I'll continue testing though... maybe I'll get used to it. However, one of the reasons I stuck with SWG rather than EQ or WoW was how the game played.


If, after more testing, I find I really don't care for combat, I'll stick around as a crafter. I hate being a whiner, but SOE seems to have been successful at taking away what I liked about combat in this game. More later.




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