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Thread: ultimate defensive build?

Rljohn
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:51 am
#14

Master Commando/Medic/4-1-1-4 Fencer


I like it, never get hit and flaming is fun. Gonna master Fencer soon though


JLG88
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:31 pm
#15

I like **edit**, dont want it to get nerfed!!!



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Naele
Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:28 pm
#16






Lightsabersmith wrote:

An interesting template that I have considered is the following:


Teras Kasi Master, Master Fencer, Marksman 0400, Pistoleer 4044


Ranged Defense: +118


Melee Defense: +171


Dodge: +160


Def. vs. KD: +120


Def vs. Dizzy: +85


There are lots of other nice defenses as well. The nice thing about this template is that you would be a melee guy that could in a pinch do some nice energy or acid damage. Obviously the meditate of TKM would come in handy since you would have 0 medical skills.








i'm doing that template


although i'll actually be 4-1-4-4 Pistoleer.


PippyAGoGo
Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:39 am
#17






Hyperdie1138 wrote:

Can't wait till you pussies get nerfed lol






Does anyone else see a serious logic flaw in this statement?



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MakJuTafar
Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:25 am
#18




Lightsabersmith wrote:

An interesting template that I have considered is the following:


Teras Kasi Master, Master Fencer, Marksman 0400, Pistoleer 4044


Ranged Defense: +118


Melee Defense: +171


Dodge: +160


Def. vs. KD: +120


Def vs. Dizzy: +85


There are lots of other nice defenses as well. The nice thing about this template is that you would be a melee guy that could in a pinch do some nice energy or acid damage. Obviously the meditate of TKM would come in handy since you would have 0 medical skills.






That is close to my current template...Master TKA/Master Pistoleer/Fencer 4440...The major skill mods are:


Dodge +195, D vs. KD +120, D vs. Dizzy +85, Melee D. +181, Ranged D. +121


I find that the only thing lacking is a ranged KD/posture change move so that I can catch up and use TKA Dizzy+KD...However, I find the defense mods and dodge allow me usually to jus' run at a PC in PvP until I can get close enough to use the TKA moves....Once the opponent is KD'ed, I usually have several choices...Mash Unarmed Head Hit 1, usually against buffed opponents...Stack all 4 health bleeds...Or slam Body Shot 3 on them...


Fully doc buffed and PB'ed, this template is a terror in PvP...Throw in some muon + brandy and you are looking about 2.5k mind in addition to your doc buffs...Fun stuff...If you haven't tried this template, you really should...=P


ChilastraBH
Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:52 am
#19

is 3/4/0/0 BH & Master Pistoleer any good for defense? I'd imagine it would be ok, but not nearly as good as some of the riflemen/fencer/tka combos.
Gdog79
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:09 am
#20

bump



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JorahRamsai
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:17 am
#21

pistoleer/fencer/defense line from TK in my opinion



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ChilastraBH
Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:14 am
#22

so what looks to be better for defense?


master rifleman/master fencer/4004 tka


or


fencer/tka/pistoleer (something like that)


I like riflemen so I'd want to keep that somewhere in the build, although my primary concern is defense.



Everyone66
Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:57 am
#23






ChilastraBH wrote:

so what looks to be better for defense?


master rifleman/master fencer/4004 tka


or


fencer/tka/pistoleer (something like that)


I like riflemen so I'd want to keep that somewhere in the build, although my primary concern is defense.










Try this: Master Brawler, Master Fencer, 4304 TKA, 4040 Pistoleer, 0400 Marksman.


A master fencer plus a 4040 pistoleer actually has 185 dodge, not 160. Fencers also have the most effective center of being, which is the most important part of any template combo. Without it, you'll still get hit.


Master TKA doesn't have the secondary defense to push them into the 'uber' category for defensive templates. They're still good, but you'll get hit a lot more often.


I have 120 defense vs kd, 100 defense vs dizzy (with +5 in attachments), 90 defense vs blind, 55 vs stun, and I think 110 vs posture change. I can stand in the middle of 5 ranged people with CoB running, and I'll get hit less than 1 in 15 shots. The defense is top of the line. However be prepared for one thing: using fencer, even complimented by master brawler (necessary for pvp), you're going to have a hell of a time killing anyone who has good buffs. The inability to hit the mind pool absolutely cripples fencers in pvp.


If you catch someone unaware, it's not too awful. KD+Dizzy and then just whack away at their health bar until they die, but someone with good composite can outheal your damage with novice medic, especially if they're kiting (they always do).


That's my 3 cents about my template, and all of my pvp experience. If you're a BH now (I was before changing), you're in for a huge change.

Higginsis
Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:35 am
#24

With my set up (in the sig) i duel a master heavy swordsman who was buffed and had 72% ubese armor on with no buffs or spice, i waste my mind in about 5 secs with a stun baton but because he couldn't hit me i chipped away with scatter hit 2 for about 1 minute, lol he was not pleased.

In PvP it takes about 3-4 people to take me, or another buffed def stacker, but i very rarely get beaten one on one.

The master rifleman/master fencer/tka set up is mint also, pretty much untoucable.



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VegitoX
Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:00 am
#25

I wouldnt bother to set up such a template. It has already been stated the Dev team ever intended for certain templates to become Ultimate. With the combat revamp coming up-alot of people will be sent to the drawing boards.



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emo-kor
Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:44 pm
#26

Master Fencer, Master Pistol, and Dirty Fighting 1-4 is what my toon currently has with nov medic and explore1. I must say, pvp with himis the most fun I have ever had out of all the templets I have expermented with.

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