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Thread: TKM is greater than MFENCER.... stacked TKM is weaker than MFencer with Pistoleer
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doltec
Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:41 am
#14
personally i like the dizzy lunge 1 (knockdown) hit them hard until they get ready to stand up and dizzy lunge 2 and watch them flop again. I made someone so mad in a friendly duel doing this that when i finally let them up they mind posioned me after agreeing not to..
TrekDude
Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:03 pm
#15
Rooc wrote:
TKM is greater then MFENCER...
Well this is not true... never will be... lol.. now most tkms I have fought with no armor/with armor no foods I have won... But there are a couple good TKMs out there.. Last TKM I dueled it went something like this.....First I quickly applied my 200 dmg health poison (cause this tkm was like the best I have ever fought) then Intimidtated him..Then I switched to pikes and stunned him so I am doing good so far... Next thing I knew I was on the ground dizzied BUT... Then once I got up my bars were pretty much 1/3..Tho his health was pretty much empty as well so I quickly used BH3 and won...
You haven't fought this TKM.
Rooc
Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:45 am
#16
TKM is greater then MFENCER...
Well this is not true... never will be... lol.. now most tkms I have fought with no armor/with armor no foods I have won... But there are a couple good TKMs out there.. Last TKM I dueled it went something like this.....First I quickly applied my 200 dmg health poison (cause this tkm was like the best I have ever fought) then Intimidtated him..Then I switched to pikes and stunned him so I am doing good so far... Next thing I knew I was on the ground dizzied BUT... Then once I got up my bars were pretty much 1/3
..Tho his health was pretty much empty as well so I quickly used BH3 and won... 
Richai
Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:05 am
#17
im a tkm and a master fencer so i can switch between both as a i need it, however, even with a dodge stacked fencer, i can still overpower them. tip is to state them as much as possible, even with 80+ kin armour (if possible, i heard rumours of 90% kin armour) a tkm using ua3 and spamming state attacks, is still going to bring down a stacked fencer, imo only becausae of one thing... a tkms toughness. feel free to flame me, but its only my opinion
Val-Gavv
Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:32 pm
#18
Richai wrote:
im a tkm and a master fencer so i can switch between both as a i need it, however, even with a dodge stacked fencer, i can still overpower them. tip is to state them as much as possible, even with 80+ kin armour (if possible, i heard rumours of 90% kin armour) a tkm using ua3 and spamming state attacks, is still going to bring down a stacked fencer, imo only becausae of one thing... a tkms toughness. feel free to flame me, but its only my opinion
Maybe its just my temp, but i have only lost to one TKM, and he is one of the best on my server. Of coursemy 295-304 stun baton helps quite a bit too.
DudeZell
Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:30 pm
#19
in some random fun duels i have owned tk with no problems but im adding tk to my profs so i can switch back and forth tk to apply dizzy blind bleed ect then switch to fencer for mind poision and mind fire then the batton to lay a beating works wonders also being master brawler to spam intimidate on em helps along with the occasional warcry no to mention runing CoB for the added protection along with all the wonderful foods 
BurdenMan
Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:45 pm
#20
I believe thats true. But it depends on how they stack, weapons (DOTS mainly), and of course skill. Food counts too.
The TKM's toughness absolutly negates Fencer dmg especially when intimidated and stunned.
The KD2 for TKM beats the Fencer's Lunge1 or 2 then Dizzyhit. +40 defense vs Dizzy and +50 vs Knockdown dont make a big difference in my opinion.
Now for pistoleer/fencer and stacked TKM its different. If the TKM has Ranged Mitigation then no point in getting master pistols but if he doesnt then if the fencer gets the KD/Dizzy then he can switch to a good Geo. Of course he'd have to wear out the PSG first.
Firewall2004
Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:02 pm
#21
I'm master TKA/Master Fencer with Pistoleer def stack ... I have never been beat by a TKA yet ... ( but I've only PvP'ed for about a month
I have a nice baton and always use my states macro first ... this way they hit alot softer (intimidate) . I have been involved in 10v10 PvP and more recently 15v15 PvP with a mix of Ranged and Melee templates and I hardly got hit . I just love my CoB macro .. using it againts PvP or PvE I find that using my fencer CoB macro runs so much better than my TKA CoB macro ... doing jantas/mokks I, at most get hit once ... can do them unbuffed now .... In my opinion I think that Master fencer with a good baton will own a TKA every time ... just use the profession right .............
I have a nice baton and always use my states macro first ... this way they hit alot softer (intimidate) . I have been involved in 10v10 PvP and more recently 15v15 PvP with a mix of Ranged and Melee templates and I hardly got hit . I just love my CoB macro .. using it againts PvP or PvE I find that using my fencer CoB macro runs so much better than my TKA CoB macro ... doing jantas/mokks I, at most get hit once ... can do them unbuffed now .... In my opinion I think that Master fencer with a good baton will own a TKA every time ... just use the profession right .............P.S Scatter hit 2 cuts through a PSG like a hot knife through butter .... dont take long to get rid of that PSG .
.... dont take long to get rid of that PSG .
Affinity_WoD
Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:18 pm
#22
Firewall2004 wrote:
I'm master TKA/Master Fencer with Pistoleer def stack ... I have never been beat by a TKA yet ... ( but I've only PvP'ed for about a month
P.S Scatter hit 2 cuts through a PSG like a hot knife through butter
just wondering how long have u beena fencer? and u can wear out a NEW psg in a duel? (sry for noob question)
thx in advance
paccy
Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:59 pm
#23
mfencer+pistol1040 is the bomb, and you'll still have 104sp to play with
(cap dodge and get those nice def vs from pistoleer)
Novocain
Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:28 pm
#24
I'm master fencer/brawler/swordsman/pikeman 2004 and novice medic
I can kill
InfidiMihi
Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:35 pm
#25
um its time to stop the "tkm does less damage because they are kinetic" myth
can someone please pin something like this on top of the forum:
"Stun damage no longer gives you the advantage it used to. A stun baton with no AP is not very good vs 45% kinetic armor +48% PSG. Kinetic, along with acid in blast, is a very useful damage type because it goes through the PSG."
Get it through your heads people, TKM does more damage than Fencer even if Fencer has a good stun baton and the tkm has a crappy vk. Again, Fencer cannot target mind, and this is all that matters. Health can be healed and most people that pvp (if not everyone) have medic, or at least a doc in the group. So after you bang on their health bar for 5 minutes they will just use a stim and laugh at you. Either that or the doc, some medic - anyone will do it for them.
At this moment, TKM is simply a better profession. After the stacking nerf and the scatter hit "fix", fencer is useful for characters whose main purpose is to stay alive (aka docs and cms), not to kill by doing direct damage. AndI would know, I am master both
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