Fencer Archive
Thread: Cant we just cut Stun Armor...
Ovakito
Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:37 pm
#14
Co-valent wrote:
Ovakito wrote:
I agree, one of thne main reasons i dropped fencer was because it was useless for offense. Definatly need to exclude stun armor from the game.
Excluding it entirely would go back to the point were Stun Weapons become too powerful again, a compromise needs to be found.
I don't think the stun baton is the problem, it's that stupid geno blaster....
CarbineShiba
Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:39 pm
#15
Seems like a fencer lost his "I win" button and wants to cry 
Duende29
Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:21 pm
#16
Ovakito wrote:
Co-valent wrote:
Ovakito wrote:
I agree, one of thne main reasons i dropped fencer was because it was useless for offense. Definatly need to exclude stun armor from the game.
Excluding it entirely would go back to the point were Stun Weapons become too powerful again, a compromise needs to be found.
I don't think the stun baton is the problem, it's that stupid geno blaster....
It's not the Geo, it's the Jawa at capped speed that bothers me. Besides, you really have to be a BH to do any damage at all with a pistol, if not, well, that über geonossian sonic blaster is... Useless.
DarkRaIN4
Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:08 am
#17
Fencer is good the way it is . i like it 
if u want ap1 or 2 that badu canalways get tka/swordman/pikeman .
SLK
Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:51 pm
#18
I think tka has a worse time, I dont know for sure tho
bit under 500 max damage in total and 80% protection no matter what..
vesus the fencer with max 50% then 40%..
The best fencer weapons I see are 400max.
Could say 100 dmg on both parts.
thats 20 tkm damage
and 30 fencer damage.
And again, your dodge and CoB works alot better than our defence mix.
bit under 500 max damage in total and 80% protection no matter what..
vesus the fencer with max 50% then 40%..
The best fencer weapons I see are 400max.
Could say 100 dmg on both parts.
thats 20 tkm damage
and 30 fencer damage.
And again, your dodge and CoB works alot better than our defence mix.
Ifisa
Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:15 pm
#19
CarbineShiba wrote:
Seems like a fencer lost his "I win" button and wants to cry
Very true. Fencers have real nice defenses, why do you think melee stackers pick it up? The complaint about stun is valid, but now how you propose to fix it. How would you like it if you had 0% kinetic resists and fought a tkm? I think stun should have ap1, maybe raise the damage, but make it 70% min like all the other things composite defends upon.
Rebel_elite
Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:39 pm
#20
I just have a quick question.... If fencer's aren't effective in PvP... who is?!?!?
AndrewGoentzel
Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:28 pm
#21
e3ApeXX wrote:
I think that everyone brings up stun armor a little too much. Half of the active pvpers on Kauri, and maybe we are different then other servers, have nothing but a stun helmet. Also about PSG, maybe in like a big guild pvp battle pvp'ers use PSG, but when your overt and you run into that lone rifleman in coronet, chances are he doesn't have quality stun armor or a PSG.
Maybe Im wrong about this, but when you can completely decimate the unprepared (a lot of PvP'ers) a profession cannot be completely useless. Also in duels, you will find that fencer can outlast anyother profession.
Wow i want to go to your server. Everyone on Kettemoor seems to be created with stun composite and imp psgs, which equals a dead fencer.
AndrewGoentzel
Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:31 pm
#22
CarbineShiba wrote:
Seems like a fencer lost his "I win" button and wants to cry
And you care why?
Terance
Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:17 am
#23
JackSparrrow wrote:Defense in half? This is part of the reason a true Master Fencer is totally ineffective in PVP. I think if stun armor capped at like 10% and if PSGs did not offer a bonus we as a class would be far more effective.Can I ask one question. Why is this Black Metal Gaffi kept so secret. Does anyone feel like we do not need an AP weapon. My entire giuld goes into the DWB and the Corvette. I am useless in helping. I can only tank and even then I am terrible.I watch this Fencer forumn, anyone know why it is so slow?Message Edited by JackSparrrow on 10-04-2004 09:46 AM
you have the logic of a 5 year old. . . .
SSJChrisaun
Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:01 am
#24
That was the whole problem before. Fencers were too tough until everyone got stun armor. Just cutting it in half would reset the problem.
Litushot
Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:37 pm
#25
MattaiTrickster wrote:
e3ApeXX wrote:
I think that everyone brings up stun armor a little too much. Half of the active pvpers on Kauri, and maybe we are different then other servers, have nothing but a stun helmet. Also about PSG, maybe in like a big guild pvp battle pvp'ers use PSG, but when your overt and you run into that lone rifleman in coronet, chances are he doesn't have quality stun armor or a PSG.
Maybe Im wrong about this, but when you can completely decimate the unprepared (a lot of PvP'ers) a profession cannot be completely useless. Also in duels, you will find that fencer can outlast anyother profession.
ya thats way different....on chilly we wear entire suites and it destroys me. i wouldnt mind it as much if we just had ap1 on the stun baton or even on gad.....OR BETTER YET A NEW WEAPON ALL TOGETHER. fencers get the shaft on new weapons, think about it, rifleman-bezerker, disrupter /pistoleer- de-10 geo pistol /pikeman- crapload of poisen and disease pikes/ swordsman- scythe........and so on and so forth. when is it our turn, give us something that gives us a better edge in offense!!
If you guys think you've been shafted, just look at us commandos...one weapon since, well....EVER!!! Our consumables suck (minus the heavy part cannon, but that does ENERGY dmg), our HAR is a weaker version of the flamer, and our grenades tend to dmg us more than they dmg our targets! So basically, you guys aren't the only one-trick ponies out there...besides, at least you guys have more than two specials to use......
JackSparrrow
Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:29 pm
#26
you have the logic of a 5 year old. . . .
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Wow, helpful. What was illogical? I am a Master Fencer/Doctor. I can damn near outlast everyone, including my friends who die qiuckly. I am usually the llast standing, at that point I may as well lay down. Because I cannot kill anyone. I am very happy just being a status effect/tank. But, I suppose I am waiting on the combat revamp.