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Still at a disadvantage is the Fencer... Poor Fencer...

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KaliMirchi wrote:

These are the mods on my vibroblade, which btwwas the best available on our server a fwe weeks ago, and has been sliced for ***speed*** (Was 3.5)

Speed: 2.6

Dam 49-163

Wound 23.5%

+3/+3/+3

27/39/27

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No offense Seena, but right there is a crappy weapon. A couple days ago I bought a Rykk Blade, unsliced and fresh made by a Master Wep that has 2.5 speed and 71-178 damage. Unsliced, with HAM costs not too much more than that vibroblade, and about %10 more wound chance. Get this, it was 5k. In credits. SO this unsliced weapon was better and probably cheaper than your sliced Vibro, and RYkks look 1000x cooler than butterknives. DItch that weapon unless your have special feelings for it.

Now, we need to talk about the situation more. It's possible your TKA friend had 1.0 speed, but I highly doubt it; that's rare these days, and while we don't completely blow away the competition, we ARE very good with speed. Now, you must have SOME speed mods, so you probably didn't have 2.6, I have Master 1h and I get plus3 or4actually, maybe, MAYBE 5... I'd say speed mods, if you were novice fencer, would take you down to about 2.0.

Now, suppose your TKA friend DID have 1.0 speed and you had NO mods (I HIGHLY doubt this is the situation) he still wouldn't be doing 3x the speed as you, 1.0 times 3.0 equals 3.0. 2.6 is faster than 3.0.

In conclusion, learn about speed mods (Trsut me, they are important to know about), ditch the dinky weapon and.. get me a sandwhich.

Seena,

If that's the best weaps you can get on your server I would be discouraged too! You can get much better - or I should say you should be telling your weaponsmiths that they can make much better. The HAM on your VB is high - my latest one (not even the best I can get) has HAM in the teens for health and mind, and like 25 for action. It's also at a base speed of 2.3 and a base dmg of 160+. So getting it dmg sliced puts it around 180ish and with footwork 4 I believe you hit the speed cap anyway. I was very happy with it since I could spam specials like mad.

I talked to a master fencer last night (Xarthas on Gorath) and he suggested the new gad sticks. He actually gave me one that got a slightly worse slice than his main one. Once you have footwork 4 (andmaybe that is one big issue with the dmg and rate you are seeing vs. a TKA) the speed of the gad's is basically nullified.

I don't have the exact stats on me but the speed is around 3.5 and max dmg is over 200. I can smack the crap out of stuff with it and specials (healthhit2) hit for well over 1k consistently, if I can get a smack in on a prone target I can go over 2k. Xarthas had commented on hitting for 5k on a prone target with healthhit3. However you DO burn massive HAM especially health. So you really have to be mindful of when to kick in the big hits and when to lay back and heal for a round. But it is fun to finally get a decent cut of XP from lairs and beasties.

I'd hang in there and boost footwork - get it to 4 and I think you will see a huge difference. Also tell your weaponsmiths to get it in gear! They are lagging behind the products on other servers!

Rexx

Hey Kali,

I don't remember what the stat's of the Gaffi of the person that I talk to, but they were pretty good. Pretty quick too because I remember I was surprised. Your master weaponsmith should be able to make a better one.

a**edit**aaka writes:

I wonder, are youa blademaster?

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No... not even close.... 1011

Seena

I know it's a crappy weapon.... It was made by one of TWO Masterweaponsmiths considered to be 'the best' on our server....And, the TKA bought his weapon at the same time I bought mine, from the same weaponsmith.

I know about HAM costs, andspeed costs andaccuracy mods. : )

There areseveral aspects to this problem. 1 Is that apparentlyour server, at the time, didn't have the metals available to make better weapons. 2 Weaponsmith are simply less likely to experiment with melee weapons because the demand is so low compared to ranged, and 3. Resources are allocated to ranged weapons first.

I'm hard at work trying to negotiate a deal with a weaponsmith - guaranteeing attention to our special needs as melee. I've even offered to put up 50000 credits(a lot of money for me) - which was kindly matched by Woz, to make it more 'profitable' forhim tomake initial time/resource investmentsin making better melee weapons. It's my dream to have one premier melee weaponsmith that we can count on to listen to our needs, and be available to do custom orders.

Not an easy thing when you have 2000 Bounty Hunters screaming for Scatter Guns and only 25 Fencers yelling for well made Rykks....

I'm not giving up yet : ) I went to Fort Tusken for the first time last night, and with the aid of an awesome medic, and my trusty grand wryx Bo, actually did ok : ) I only died twice ; )

Seena

Heya Rexx,

Thanks for the encouragement : ) You do make it sound like there's a light at the end of that Tusken tunnel...

hehehehe

Seena the gimp

Seena, with those HAM costs on that vibroblade, you might ask the weaponsmith if they were using Advanced Vibro Units.. They very well might have been, thinking that they would be better..

All I've ever seen from using advanced units is higher ham, and not much better stats. Might not be the case for you, but might get you a better HAM blade if by chance that's what they used on this one.

-Onei Linn

Thanks Onei,

I wasn't aware of that difference, I'll definitely check into it...

Seena

Everyone is talking about sliced weapons either for dmg or spd. I think i understand what this means but who can slice a weapon in such manner and how do I know if my sword is sliced or not. Please advice. Thanx a million.

Fellow Fencer,

Prometheus

Smugglers can slice. You can usually tell the slice by pulling up the weapon description. One way to do this is to have the weapon on your hotkey pad, right click and click "describe" on the menu that appears. The actual stats of the sword as made appear accross the top of the screen, and the present stats appear in the text. If you compare, you can tell how it has ben sliced. After a while you will not need to look in order to tell. If you shop master weapons a lot, you know the range of each stat and can tell at a glance how it has been sliced because only one of the stats is out of the range of what a master can produce on your server.

I have one speed and one damage sliced curved sword. I only use the damage sliced onesince I topped off the footwork line.

Thanx Ilooli! I'll put that information to use.


Prometheus

My vibro blade with Adv vibro unit is 12-25-12 HAM so don't count them out. It is also 2.6 216 dam. Seena seems to be on a newer server and the materials to make decent weaps aren't around yet. Stick with it they will come =) As for the Gaffi, at master with the way speed works right now they are by far the best weapon we can use ( imo of course ) mine is 3.5 167-292 46/34/14 with a nice damage slice on both of those. My best curved is a 2.1 218. can't remember the min damage on the vibro or curved sorry =/