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M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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I know this generally isnt the place to dispute medical templates.....

but 3000 Doc is a waste of a lot of skill points, and CM w/o /healmind is bloody worthless-CM will not output much damage at all unless you are master of it.

If you're mastering medic with fencer, you need 4404 CM or 4030 Doc at least for it to be worthwhile.

$0.02

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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I know this generally isnt the place to dispute medical templates.....

but 3000 Doc is a waste of a lot of skill points, and CM w/o /healmind is bloody worthless-CM will not output much damage at all unless you are master of it.

If you're mastering medic with fencer, you need 4404 CM or 4030 Doc at least for it to be worthwhile.

$0.02

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3000 Doc gives you all the state cures. You can make 390 poison cure packs with base janta blood, and it only takes 1 blood per pack. Allow me to inform you:

Tick of poison cured = Power of Cure + (Power x .Wound Treatment)
With +25 clothing you have 35 wound treatment.
390 + (390 x.35) = 526.5 tick poison cured.
Same equation goes for 55 MU fire blankets.

Incorrect, you can do plenty of damage with 4004 CM. At this level your poison ticks for:
Effectiveness of Poison x 1.75 (175%)
Standard Single C's usually have around 350 effectivness. Lets say you use 150 power venom:
Single C Effectiveness would be about 450, give or take a few points.
450 x 1.75 = 787.5 Tick

You're going to tell me a 787 tick mind poison isn't very strong? And just so you know, Master CM use gives you 25% extra boost, so that 450 effect would tick for 900. Having mind-heal is nice in a fight, but if you don't have doc the second you're poisoned you're clock is ticking rather fast. I would reccomend 0400 CM and left over points into doctor.

Message Edited by FoeHammerOne on 02-06-2005 03:15 PM

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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I know this generally isnt the place to dispute medical templates.....

but 3000 Doc is a waste of a lot of skill points, and CM w/o /healmind is bloody worthless-CM will not output much damage at all unless you are master of it.

If you're mastering medic with fencer, you need 4404 CM or 4030 Doc at least for it to be worthwhile.

$0.02

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3000 Doc gives you all the state cures. You can make 390 poison cure packs with base janta blood, and it only takes 1 blood per pack. Allow me to inform you:

Tick of poison cured = Power of Cure + (Power x .Wound Treatment)
With +25 clothing you have 35 wound treatment.
390 + (390 x.35) = 526.5 tick poison cured.
Same equation goes for 55 MU fire blankets.

Incorrect, you can do plenty of damage with 4004 CM. At this level your poison ticks for:
Effectiveness of Poison x 1.75 (175%)
Standard Single C's usually have around 350 effectivness. Lets say you use 150 power venom:
Single C Effectiveness would be about 450, give or take a few points.
450 x 1.75 = 787.5 Tick

You're going to tell me a 787 tick mind poison isn't very strong? And just so you know, Master CM use gives you 25% extra boost, so that 450 effect would tick for 900. Having mind-heal is nice in a fight, but if you don't have doc the second you're poisoned you're clock is ticking rather fast. I would reccomend 0400 CM and left over points into doctor.

Message Edited by FoeHammerOne on 02-06-2005 03:15 PM

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You're talking a lot about special case scenarios, with Janta blood and spider poison. That may be an excellent template for you, but generally speaking those templates just aren't that viable.

Also, it sounds like youre talking about a dueling template, whereas I was thinking you would take doc/cm with fencer for group support.

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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I know this generally isnt the place to dispute medical templates.....

but 3000 Doc is a waste of a lot of skill points, and CM w/o /healmind is bloody worthless-CM will not output much damage at all unless you are master of it.

If you're mastering medic with fencer, you need 4404 CM or 4030 Doc at least for it to be worthwhile.

$0.02

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3000 Doc gives you all the state cures. You can make 390 poison cure packs with base janta blood, and it only takes 1 blood per pack. Allow me to inform you:

Tick of poison cured = Power of Cure + (Power x .Wound Treatment)
With +25 clothing you have 35 wound treatment.
390 + (390 x.35) = 526.5 tick poison cured.
Same equation goes for 55 MU fire blankets.

Incorrect, you can do plenty of damage with 4004 CM. At this level your poison ticks for:
Effectiveness of Poison x 1.75 (175%)
Standard Single C's usually have around 350 effectivness. Lets say you use 150 power venom:
Single C Effectiveness would be about 450, give or take a few points.
450 x 1.75 = 787.5 Tick

You're going to tell me a 787 tick mind poison isn't very strong? And just so you know, Master CM use gives you 25% extra boost, so that 450 effect would tick for 900. Having mind-heal is nice in a fight, but if you don't have doc the second you're poisoned you're clock is ticking rather fast. I would reccomend 0400 CM and left over points into doctor.

Message Edited by FoeHammerOne on 02-06-2005 03:15 PM

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You're talking a lot about special case scenarios, with Janta blood and spider poison. That may be an excellent template for you, but generally speaking those templates just aren't that viable.

Also, it sounds like youre talking about a dueling template, whereas I was thinking you would take doc/cm with fencer for group support.

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He is talking about a "saving my own ass" template

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raldurrm wrote:

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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I know this generally isnt the place to dispute medical templates.....

but 3000 Doc is a waste of a lot of skill points, and CM w/o /healmind is bloody worthless-CM will not output much damage at all unless you are master of it.

If you're mastering medic with fencer, you need 4404 CM or 4030 Doc at least for it to be worthwhile.

$0.02

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3000 Doc gives you all the state cures. You can make 390 poison cure packs with base janta blood, and it only takes 1 blood per pack. Allow me to inform you:

Tick of poison cured = Power of Cure + (Power x .Wound Treatment)
With +25 clothing you have 35 wound treatment.
390 + (390 x.35) = 526.5 tick poison cured.
Same equation goes for 55 MU fire blankets.

Incorrect, you can do plenty of damage with 4004 CM. At this level your poison ticks for:
Effectiveness of Poison x 1.75 (175%)
Standard Single C's usually have around 350 effectivness. Lets say you use 150 power venom:
Single C Effectiveness would be about 450, give or take a few points.
450 x 1.75 = 787.5 Tick

You're going to tell me a 787 tick mind poison isn't very strong? And just so you know, Master CM use gives you 25% extra boost, so that 450 effect would tick for 900. Having mind-heal is nice in a fight, but if you don't have doc the second you're poisoned you're clock is ticking rather fast. I would reccomend 0400 CM and left over points into doctor.

Message Edited by FoeHammerOne on 02-06-2005 03:15 PM

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You're talking a lot about special case scenarios, with Janta blood and spider poison. That may be an excellent template for you, but generally speaking those templates just aren't that viable.

Also, it sounds like youre talking about a dueling template, whereas I was thinking you would take doc/cm with fencer for group support.

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He is talking about a "saving my own ass" template

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Pretty much. The Fencer/Pistol Tech/Doc template is the "fail-safe" template because you can keep yourself and your group alive fairly well. With that template you really can't deal a lot of damage without some serious acklay bones. The CM template would be more of a damage deal because you can stick someone and poison/warcry/pd+dizzy.

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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raldurrm wrote:

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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TalusianRogue wrote:

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FoeHammerOne wrote:

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blackgunz wrote:
M fencer/pistoleer 0040/doc 4030.

Nuff said.

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Bingo. Especially if you're a Zabrak, you get uber state defenses, Ranged mitigation 2, and pretty good cure packs. If you're going to have a fencer template that doesn't have Ranged mitigation the only viable option is Fencer, 3000 doc, 4004 CM. Talk to some old school med crafters on your server they can probably make 55 MU fire blankets, and get some nice 150+ power venom's/200 charge bile to back up CM and you're good to go.

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I know this generally isnt the place to dispute medical templates.....

but 3000 Doc is a waste of a lot of skill points, and CM w/o /healmind is bloody worthless-CM will not output much damage at all unless you are master of it.

If you're mastering medic with fencer, you need 4404 CM or 4030 Doc at least for it to be worthwhile.

$0.02

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3000 Doc gives you all the state cures. You can make 390 poison cure packs with base janta blood, and it only takes 1 blood per pack. Allow me to inform you:

Tick of poison cured = Power of Cure + (Power x .Wound Treatment)
With +25 clothing you have 35 wound treatment.
390 + (390 x.35) = 526.5 tick poison cured.
Same equation goes for 55 MU fire blankets.

Incorrect, you can do plenty of damage with 4004 CM. At this level your poison ticks for:
Effectiveness of Poison x 1.75 (175%)
Standard Single C's usually have around 350 effectivness. Lets say you use 150 power venom:
Single C Effectiveness would be about 450, give or take a few points.
450 x 1.75 = 787.5 Tick

You're going to tell me a 787 tick mind poison isn't very strong? And just so you know, Master CM use gives you 25% extra boost, so that 450 effect would tick for 900. Having mind-heal is nice in a fight, but if you don't have doc the second you're poisoned you're clock is ticking rather fast. I would reccomend 0400 CM and left over points into doctor.

Message Edited by FoeHammerOne on 02-06-2005 03:15 PM

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You're talking a lot about special case scenarios, with Janta blood and spider poison. That may be an excellent template for you, but generally speaking those templates just aren't that viable.

Also, it sounds like youre talking about a dueling template, whereas I was thinking you would take doc/cm with fencer for group support.

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He is talking about a "saving my own ass" template

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Pretty much. The Fencer/Pistol Tech/Doc template is the "fail-safe" template because you can keep yourself and your group alive fairly well. With that template you really can't deal a lot of damage without some serious acklay bones. The CM template would be more of a damage deal because you can stick someone and poison/warcry/pd+dizzy.

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