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Thread: Elite Profession Weapon-Fencer
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Maltrix
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:51 pm
#1
Hello all,
In the swordsman forums we have been discussing a weapon for Master Swordsman which would be considered our Elite Weapon and only dedicated players would be able to obtain. Its seems to be coming along and i am here to posting on every brawler profession to start a discussion for what you think would make a good weapon that would show how dedidcated and skilled you are as a Fencer.
Our post is called "The Nameless Blade" incase you want to see what we have for ideas
I know you guys are suppose to get duel weild after JTL so maybe something involving that.
Thank you for your time all
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:04 pm
#2
Maltrix wrote:
Hello all,
In the swordsman forums we have been discussing a weapon for Master Swordsman which would be considered our Elite Weapon and only dedicated players would be able to obtain. Its seems to be coming along and i am here to posting on every brawler profession to start a discussion for what you think would make a good weapon that would show how dedidcated and skilled you are as a Fencer.
Our post is called "The Nameless Blade" incase you want to see what we have for ideas
I know you guys are suppose to get duel weild after JTL so maybe something involving that.
Thank you for your time all
Hmm,
i need AP2 as a fencer so badly...main reason for droping rifle and switch to swordsman...
OneShotOneKill
Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:26 pm
#3
fencer should get some sort of rapier....an actual fencing weapon
id like to see a sword thats long and thin, should have better damage and medium AP
make it some sort of "vibro Rapier"
and they should have varying speed caps too like .5 per attack for fencer ans 2 secs for swordsman IMO
right now fencer is too weak to be of any real use against anything with armour
id like to see a sword thats long and thin, should have better damage and medium AP
make it some sort of "vibro Rapier"
and they should have varying speed caps too like .5 per attack for fencer ans 2 secs for swordsman IMO
right now fencer is too weak to be of any real use against anything with armour
Neige
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:40 am
#4
i've got a great idea... some kind of weapon emitting a blade-shaped ray of light, capable of cutting throug mostly anything, we could call it a LaserSword or something.
hell such a cool concept i wonder why nobody thought of it yet.
SERIOUSLY it would be a GREAT and EASY way to add enormous value to MASTERING a mélee profession : Give the certification and schematic to the corresponding Ligntsaber : 1handed for fencer, 2handed for swordsman, 2bladed for pikeman. TK be damned (or give them an unarmed "Ki" attack : energy or blast)
imadork
Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:25 am
#5
is there any weapon that deals cold dmg?
i have seen monsters with resists to it so i know that dmg type is available but never seen the weapon
maybe a scimitar that does cold dmg---like Drizzt's weapon from the forgotten realms books it would definately be unique
Tholcrist
Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:32 am
#6
one of the rifles does cold damage, think it's only AP1 which is why it never shows up.
Brainplay
Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:46 am
#7
imadork wrote:
is there any weapon that deals cold dmg?
i have seen monsters with resists to it so i know that dmg type is available but never seen the weapon
maybe a scimitar that does cold dmg---like Drizzt's weapon from the forgotten realms books it would definately be unique
The SG82 is the only cold based weapon in this game and is AP0. Heat and cold seem to have the same luck with AP. No heat or cold weapon has any armor piercing including the riflemans looted/crafted Beserker rifle which comes from the Corvette. Hopefully the Teras Kasi heat based knucklers go the same route when implemented.
As for our weapon I would much rather have a Vibro Curved Sword or Saber or Cutlass with AP1 and able to reach into the high 200's or even break the 300 mark. No need to readjust our modifiers (or screw them up) just give us something that can compete against armor when our stun batons cant. Pistoleers now have the DE-10 which is equivelant to a .44 magnum in their class which boosts their hitting power...so where'sours? If you must insist on wire weenie weapons then dont exclude "light" saber weapons whichare still part of modern sport "fencing" albiet not as popular. Against any form of carpace armor a foil and epee are worthless.
Message Edited by Brainplay on 07-22-2004 04:52 AM
Tholcrist
Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:48 am
#8
a saber wouldn't be AP though, and a rapier can be AP, it's not designed for heavy hits but between armor hits. thats how you win a duel against a heavy armored opponent you stab between teh joints of his armor hence, making it AP
Maltrix
Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:27 am
#9
You guys are off to a good start ^_^ but Neige as i see it copying lightsaber in anyway wouldnt make me feel unqiue when/if i got a weapon like this.
Remember to respect everyones oppions on this matter as the more mature the thread is more serious the devs can take it.
Minerunner
Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:55 am
#10
This discussion has taken place already here.
Many thoughts were presented, such as...
1handed Lightsaber Cert: with negative modifiers to accuracy.
Light Foil: The canonical predecessor to the Lightsaber and known to exist among non Jedi Comunities thruought the Expanded Universe.
Vibro Sword: An AP 1, long version of the Vibro Blade, also from SW EU Canon.
Vibro Saber: Another skin idea for the Vibro Sword
Craftable Rantok: Enough said.
These were the most popular, however thousands of melee weapons can be found on the various Star Wars Fan Databases.
There are drawbacks and benifits to all the above ideas... lifepsan of the weapon (suggested to be limited compared to standard weapons)
In the case of Lightsaber certs no one but a Jedi could craft one so that would limit the number of them, and they could not be attuned to a non Jedi so their damage would be limited in that they could not modify a crafted saber at all.
Light foils should be powerfull but very very limited in condition. They are in canon devices used in very specific types of duels of honor and must be repowered after every fight... I'd add a droid battery capacity if I let it have a large condition.
Vibro Swords and Sabers: Benifits could include various crafted modifications (used like Lightsaber Crystal insertions) to make them unique and modifiable... further intigrating weaponsmiths usefullness... they'd have to make you more mods when the old ones break.
Craftable Rantok has been asked for for over a year since it was introduced in Beta: I would suggest modifiable like Vibro weapons but useing Bio Componants.
Many thoughts were presented, such as...
1handed Lightsaber Cert: with negative modifiers to accuracy.
Light Foil: The canonical predecessor to the Lightsaber and known to exist among non Jedi Comunities thruought the Expanded Universe.
Vibro Sword: An AP 1, long version of the Vibro Blade, also from SW EU Canon.
Vibro Saber: Another skin idea for the Vibro Sword
Craftable Rantok: Enough said.
These were the most popular, however thousands of melee weapons can be found on the various Star Wars Fan Databases.
There are drawbacks and benifits to all the above ideas... lifepsan of the weapon (suggested to be limited compared to standard weapons)
In the case of Lightsaber certs no one but a Jedi could craft one so that would limit the number of them, and they could not be attuned to a non Jedi so their damage would be limited in that they could not modify a crafted saber at all.
Light foils should be powerfull but very very limited in condition. They are in canon devices used in very specific types of duels of honor and must be repowered after every fight... I'd add a droid battery capacity if I let it have a large condition.
Vibro Swords and Sabers: Benifits could include various crafted modifications (used like Lightsaber Crystal insertions) to make them unique and modifiable... further intigrating weaponsmiths usefullness... they'd have to make you more mods when the old ones break.
Craftable Rantok has been asked for for over a year since it was introduced in Beta: I would suggest modifiable like Vibro weapons but useing Bio Componants.
Maltrix
Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:53 am
#11
Well to me, our "Elite weapon" should be very durable. And what i had in mind was a forge that you would assemble your weapon in and when need be, could repair with the use of a rare ore, now it be good if every weapon was differant in what they had to do to get the weapon, repair etc.
Digitalphobia
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:24 pm
#12
Hi,
I think you guy observe fencer has "fencer" in real world. We already have an image of a SWG fencer which uses ... rusty pipes, combat knives, and nightsticks. It wouldn't do to add foil or saber. It ain't medival times. It ain't EQ.
We want something that came out of the crash between crudeness and technology. For example, you all remember my post before about "glass" blades. Very sharp (ap2) but very brittle (low durability). High tech because this glass can last quite a few battles (You know how hard to keep our glass edge from chipping), but crude because ... come on, chipped glass y'al.
I am not saying my idea is the thing. I am just saying adding our new master weapon had better be very unique; it could even be eccecentric. And it had better not be ... medival.
Hey, guys? Do you know what starwars surgents use in surguries? We can use them in combat too. I kinda like that too. (lol fencer/doc) We have laser surgury now. Imagine whats it like in space age.
Q
P.S. I am kinda tired of vibro-blah, but you all like it then I am fine too.
I think you guy observe fencer has "fencer" in real world. We already have an image of a SWG fencer which uses ... rusty pipes, combat knives, and nightsticks. It wouldn't do to add foil or saber. It ain't medival times. It ain't EQ.
We want something that came out of the crash between crudeness and technology. For example, you all remember my post before about "glass" blades. Very sharp (ap2) but very brittle (low durability). High tech because this glass can last quite a few battles (You know how hard to keep our glass edge from chipping), but crude because ... come on, chipped glass y'al.
I am not saying my idea is the thing. I am just saying adding our new master weapon had better be very unique; it could even be eccecentric. And it had better not be ... medival.
Hey, guys? Do you know what starwars surgents use in surguries? We can use them in combat too. I kinda like that too. (lol fencer/doc) We have laser surgury now. Imagine whats it like in space age.
Q
P.S. I am kinda tired of vibro-blah, but you all like it then I am fine too.
Digitalphobia
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:35 pm
#13
Hi,
Or we can have a stun baton with a hair. Who said stun batons have to be a blunt weapon? We can have electrified prongs which we can "jack-in" to our opponents.
You stab ... your opponent gets fried. Not bad idea. We can still keep SWG-face too and have our most desired AP2.
Kinda like this idea. Very naughty.
Qui'lu of Chilastra
Or we can have a stun baton with a hair. Who said stun batons have to be a blunt weapon? We can have electrified prongs which we can "jack-in" to our opponents.
You stab ... your opponent gets fried. Not bad idea. We can still keep SWG-face too and have our most desired AP2.
Kinda like this idea. Very naughty.
Qui'lu of Chilastra
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