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Thread: Starting the top 5 ( Weapons )

FURY_Chaser
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:13 am
#1

We have not had one of these for a while, and I think that alot has changed since the last time Rapheal did this.


HAM costs were on the top of the list last time - With new food and the HAM system the devs had put on TC a while back ( Still revamping it as far as I know, I havent even looked at Correspondant boards ) this in time will be fixed and is known by Devs of something we and all melee need some lovin on.


More viable weapons were close to the top as well - Adding new content takes time effort and well Im not a programer so I would assume that it would be harder than changeing existing things. With that said looking at the differences of crafting melee and ranged weapons, ranged weapons have alot more flexiblity in the way of graphics. Barrels, scopes, stocks and so forth. So instead of adding new weapons why not try to push the idea of adding custom weapons that we already have. So would have more options than others of coarse.

Curved Sword - Classic small samuri/ninja blade that is now in live, possible other models like a scimitar falchion( help me out here guys with some more names )


Sword - Currently clasic small sword style, other options and I think this one has the most to play with. Rapier, long sword,broad sword, ( again help me out )


Vibroblade - Curently more like vibrodagger, well why not have customable blade lenght?

Rykk blade - Blade customazation I dont think should vary much on this one, just generic options which ill describe in a minute.


Rantok Sword - Currently only available by jabba's mission but hopefully craftable soon, as described as a legendary sword I dont think any customazation should be made to this ( As weird as it may look )


Gaff stick - In all the star wars movies all of them looked identical so no custom models ( IMO )

Stun Baton - Very bland old style English night stick, add a little graphic of sparks on the tip of this and then we would have a cool PvP weapon


Generic Add ons - Hilt blades mentioned above, ( again need ideas from you all )


Also I would like to see the schematic changed for Rykk, sword and Curved sword that would put Rancor teeth as a optional component into a sword core instead of replacing it.

And finally what I would like to see most is dual weapons.


If and this is a big if we got some custom weapons described above, easiest ( but not the best ) way to implement dual weapons would be makeing a actual schematic for a new weapon that would just have the appearance of dual weapons.


Such as Schematic requires some metal and blah blah blah + 2 One hand Weapons as sub components to the schematic. Final product would take the appearance of the two weapons used in the crafting.


Problem with dual weapons is similar if anyone that played JKO ( Jedi Knight Outcast ) with the dual lighsaber mod, was that the secondary weapon would remain pretty much stationary and was just a graphic, which Im sure would not go over well with anyone ( including myself ) so either new animtions would have to be put in for the new schematic or entirely new moves only used by the new schematic. ( Similar to the Bounty hunter and Commando Tree's )


Rizzaka
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:25 am
#2

For the Gaffi, keep the stats for it however give the ability to change appeance and name, i'm fine with the damage i do with a gaffi if we could just get a new model to replace it would be fine and fairly easy on the art team i think.


i've never used a ryyk or curved sword in my entire fencing career so i can't speak much on those


i like the vibroblade how it is, its look fits with the concept of moving parts along the blade.


Maybe color on the Stun Baton, it needs to stop looking like we are walking around with a giant black dildo. Perhaps thining it down would work, even adding a blue glow or aura to it in place of a spark at the end too.








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Tithas
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:44 am
#3

More damge types is the biggest to me if we can customize weapons maybe they can make it so we can use pups that add a different damage type



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Scott_Ray
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:59 am
#4

HAM costs for us will hopefully be fixed in the combat revamp along with the new HAM system thats coming out.


A good new weapon for us would probably be a vibrosword such as the ones I hear are in KOTOR. Dual weapons ala JKO was just a graphic, but in JKA they turned it into a full extra weapon in itself. We would need new specials for dual-wieding probably and new animations come with that, the Devs have said they will add it, but it is just a matter of when.



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Akavar
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:00 am
#5

My biggest concern is the lack of any decent armor peircing and the lack of damage type, kinetic and stun are very limiting to higher level mobs
Rizzaka
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:17 am
#6




Chaser said:


So instead of adding new weapons why not try to push the idea of adding custom weapons that we already have.




I think he means design here guys, this isn't the same thread that i started where i ask your opinions on new weapons he is looking for graphical esthetic (sp?) ways to make fencer have a bit more options. Guns can have barrels and grips, we should have the equivalent of that... THIS is what chaser is getting at






Drrty · Bothan of DOOOOOOOM
Zabuza · Demon of the Mist
· Prince of Endor ·
learn to adapt to the situation you have put your character in. i do not need to adapt my proffesion to accomodate yours.

FURY_Chaser
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:28 am
#7






Rizzaka wrote:




Chaser said:


So instead of adding new weapons why not try to push the idea of adding custom weapons that we already have.





I think he means design here guys, this isn't the same thread that i started where i ask your opinions on new weapons he is looking for graphical esthetic (sp?) ways to make fencer have a bit more options. Guns can have barrels and grips, we should have the equivalent of that... THIS is what chaser is getting at




bingo

Peadar
Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:22 pm
#8

I agree with the component thing...WS should be able to craft, new blades, handles, hilts, crossbars for all of our swords. Each component would give a different quality to the sword. For example I'd like to see a schematic for a heat blade which can be added to a sword and offer heat damage. A schematic for a hilt, which will lower HAM cost. Something along those lines. Might be the way to go.







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Rizzaka
Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:35 pm
#9

How about something like the Roman Gladiator style Hilt and Blade? that would look great cutting up Tuskens with.


There are tons of options that could be done, for a Ryyk we could have varying amounts on the curve and maybe make it look a bit more 'middle eastern' as well.


A large butchers Knife would look cool to replace the gaffi as well, plus we could wear chef gear and it'd look really scary lol








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Zabuza · Demon of the Mist
· Prince of Endor ·
learn to adapt to the situation you have put your character in. i do not need to adapt my proffesion to accomodate yours.

Westpark
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:28 pm
#10

Id settle just to see the stun baton actually look full of energy or when it hits to make some sort of stun noise.. the jawa has a cool effect.. But yeah being able to customize the swords would be great..



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galandroxxx
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:43 pm
#11

gaffi sticks were all the same in the movies yes but... in swg the descriptions of gaffi's in novels and rpg's they are made from what ever metal is laying arond that the tuskens could find so just my opion this should be the most versitile one we haveanything couldlook like a gaffi and it would still be a gaffi stick . my thoughts are to instead of a big bulb head on one end have a large blade upgrade and a smal blade on the other. i like the other ideas so far . i suggested in another thread that i would love to just see the rantok either becoae a scematic for fencer classes or just boost the stats on the one we get from jabba .

on kinda a difrent note on rancor teeth the bigest problem i see with them as is if they want make the a add on part can you try and push for them to up the minimum damage on them thats usally what IMO what ruins the sword you have made with them ( they never have even regular minimum damage on them )

thanks .

and GRATZ on getting the job



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Burnham
Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:39 pm
#12

Yes! That Vibroblade makes me look like one gimpy Fencer.


I want more upgrades andoptions. I.E. range weapons get scopes/stocks. They get multiple components which have upgrade options, etc.


Stun baton - zero

Gaffi stick - zilch

Curved Sword - 1 upgrade

Ryyk - I forget (0 or 1)

Vibroblade - 1 upgrade


Elite Carbine - scope or no scope? themepark scope or regular?

stock or no stock? themepark stock or no stock?

krayt tissue? capacitor?



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tuskenssuck
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:57 pm
#13

Well, I think the stats of the weapons should be leveled out, so its not either gaffi stick or stun baton.Gaffi's go far ahead of any other weapon, and stun is used of course due to its damge type.


It would definetely be cool to give the stun baton some cool noise like the ion rifle and even a visual effect on contact. I think they could also modify the actuall look of the baton, thinner and longer instead of short and fat. That goes withiout me saying how weapons should be customizable in color etc.


I think the rykk blade should be better, its supposed to be a great sword, the weapon of choice of wookies,youd think it'd be better.


My idea for a weapon, would be a sword that did electric damage, like an electric shock on contact. Electro-blade, whatever you wanna call it.I think that would be really cool, IF it was good. It would hopefully look cool and have good animation/visual effects. I think that would make a lot more fencers happy, by terms of new weapons.


Another idea is, you should be able to make gaffi sticks with DOT's. The tip of a gaffi is supposed to be poisonous, so why not be able to make em like that.



Basically, more weapon options, but what do you think about the electro-blade?





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