Fencer Archive
Thread: Hey guys I could use a little help understanding fencer.
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zolock
Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:47 pm
#1
Im gonna go bh soon and I could go tkm bh or fencer bh. Now i thought it might be interesting to try fencer because If i get an attatchment, and a power up, and get it sliced, and buy like an uber 2 mil stun baton or something, I could get it speed capped with a lot of damage. I was thinking wouldnt it be like tkm only with way better defences, way better damage type, way better damage, and same speed?! If this is true and I can accomplish this, sign me up for master fencer! If this doesent work please tell me why and if there is another way I can make fencer the right profession for me when im working on bh.
zolock
Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:51 pm
#2
I would actually be willing to pay up to 5 mil for the stun baton or a good weapon
kAotiC_HeRo
Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:19 am
#3
Refer to my guide under this post. It might help since I can solo on 2 Jedi Knights
Rizzaka
Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:38 am
#4
honestly, if your going to be hunting jedi then i'd get a gaffi made with some really good bones. The max dmg output is alot more on gaffi's and jedi have no resist vs kinetic or stun so your better off going for the higher damage weapon.
zolock
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:37 am
#5
Ok, thanks guys. I will check into that guide. And thanks for the gaffi tip. Well, my last question is, is fencer the best melee profession everyone always says it is slow and weak but say you get up your speed all the way (easily done with power ups attatchments) and than the damage is already way higher than a vk, and you can have different better damage types, isnt fencer just like tk only better attack and better defence, therefore making it the best melee profession in the game? Or whats the downside?
I8TheWorm
Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:11 am
#7
zolock wrote:Ok, thanks guys. I will check into that guide. And thanks for the gaffi tip. Well, my last question is, is fencer the best melee profession everyone always says it is slow and weak but say you get up your speed all the way (easily done with power ups attatchments) and than the damage is already way higher than a vk, and you can have different better damage types, isnt fencer just like tk only better attack and better defence, therefore making it the best melee profession in the game? Or whats the downside?
Weak damage, yes. Slow, absolutely not. I'm speed capped, so my 4.0 339 dmg gaffi hits every second. The hard part is finding good damage weapons. Great loot (good DOT, acklay or an exceptional/legendary weapon), and a lucky slice will help you out in that area.
The biggest thing to me is outlasting other players in duels, as we're pretty hard to hit, especially when you have pikatta and skill tapes.
zolock
Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:01 am
#8
Yes, but you keep getting around my point. It is stronger than a vk. 330 damage is sooo much stronger than even an uber vk (not the god ones that are one in 10000 like you can get any weapon like in looting) But fencer is just as fast, better defence, and better damage, and better damage types. Whats not better about it than tk?
I8TheWorm
Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:39 am
#9
zolock wrote:Yes, but you keep getting around my point. It is stronger than a vk. 330 damage is sooo much stronger than even an uber vk (not the god ones that are one in 10000 like you can get any weapon like in looting) But fencer is just as fast, better defence, and better damage, and better damage types. Whats not better about it than tk?
Unarmed toughness
Kidding aside... I dueled a TKM buddy of mine for fun the other night (buffed). For the longest time, neither of us could get the other's ham to move. That was, until my vercupti and vasarian brandy wore out, and my mind started to deteriorate slowly.
Without the buffs, we would have been roughly equal. However, given the notion of higher damage melee profs (swords/pikes) I certainly could have outlasted.
zolock
Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:56 am
#10
I dont know why he beat you. Did he have anything besides tk? How come he was able to beat you? You have better defence and better attack and everything. Unless you werent pure fencer and he was pure tk. The point is I dont really care cause Im not planning on pvping tk's, im planning on going bh and killing jedis that have no kinetic resist.
I8TheWorm
Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:09 am
#11
zolock wrote:I dont know why he beat you. Did he have anything besides tk? How come he was able to beat you? You have better defence and better attack and everything. Unless you werent pure fencer and he was pure tk. The point is I dont really care cause Im not planning on pvping tk's, im planning on going bh and killing jedis that have no kinetic resist.
It was THM/pistoleer (do the defs stack?) vs. pure Master Fencer (the rest of my template is doc). Neither of us were using our DOT's either (mine was much more potent). He was able to beat me because his food buffs were still in place, and our scatterHit doesn't do the mind damage that their mindHit (or whatever it's called) does. His KD is a bit more potent as well. Add to that that it was only my second duel ever, so some of it might be chalked up to experience.
zolock
Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:58 pm
#12
So lets put it this way. After all the power ups slices attatchments etc.
Pure FencerMaster Pure Teras Kasi Master
High Defence Medium Defence
Maxed Speed Maxed Speed
MediumDamage Weapon Low Damage Weapon
Stun Damage Kinetic Damage
Dizzy but no knock downKd Dizzy on its own
without Master Brawler
Teras Kasi is already more than a formidable apponent. But the only thing better about it really seems to be you dont need master brawler to kd dizzy. EVERYTHING else fencer is greater than tk. Absolutely amazing!
MinimeAbala
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:18 pm
#13
btw, at master, fencers are capped in speed. no attachments needed. and attachments like 1 handed damage or broke. btw, it should be noted, coming from someone whos mastered both, that fencer has ALOT more defense vs kd then a tk. no unarmed toughness, but dodge and a high kd defense (highest of any melee i think)
Message Edited by MinimeAbala on 03-17-2005 07:20 PM
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