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Thread: Am i missing something or are loot made weapons um OVERPRICED
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SuddnDeath
Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:35 pm
#1
Today i was checking a few vendors and a 223 max dmg gaffi was 5k hmm pretty cheap, then a sliced gaffi 287 max dmg 30k wow nice prices i was thinking then i looked at the loot made weapons vendor hmm 267 max dmg gaffi 400k WT F im just wondering how +43 ackalybones make this weapon 395k more than a regular weapon. Im sorry but im not gonna pay 395k more for +43 dmg which is +2-5 dmg in pvp. Am i the only one who thinks some weaponsmiths are freakin insane?
BTW i checked some more vendors and it seems all the ws on my server feel +30-45 dmg = +400-800k
Warpa
Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:12 am
#3
TalusianRogue wrote:
The trick is Pixie, vercupti, and breath of heaven.
Never used any of these, i only use pikata and air cake. What stats to they alter?
Aphecks
Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:24 am
#4
Vercupti is +1000 to HAM, Pixie is a Health and Action booster, never used breath of heaven.
ShadowCM
Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:29 am
#6
breath of heaven boosts the strength, quickness, and focus.
Pixie boosts health, action, strenght, constitution, and (i think) quickness
Moun boosts +500 to mind, willpower, and focus
Ahrisa boosts +300+ to focus
Brandy boosts +350+ to mind willpower, and focus
Pikatta pie/aircake boosts dodge
Flameout: 6 attacks, at least 100% damage reduction
Synthsteak: at least 30 attacks, at least 30% damage reduction
When desperate, i fit in a moun, flameout, pie, and BoH
Without mindbuffs, i fit in a moun, brandy, pie, and ahrisa
Sitorikku
Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:12 pm
#9
You can blame that on poor spawn rates and lame campers. Those Acklay only spawn like very 90 minutes. What a lot of people do is logoff in the room the acklay is in then jump back on every spawn time. Usually having doc skills to buff up. What do the campers have to do with the prices? Because the few people that actually fight the geo caves to make it to the acklay and actuallydon'thave itstolen, let alone actually getting significant loot, find that loot 20X more rare then it actually is. The campers on the other hand have a firm grip on the loot situation and could probably manipulate some prices if they wanted. If acklay spawned every, say, 15 minutes, the price for the weapons would plumit.
My suggestion is, go out and buy the components yourself, and find a decent WS that has thepeice of mindnot to screw you over for a custom order. Its much cheaper. Ive seen the standard bones go for cheap at the better shops. I guess it all depends on the looter and server.
furrycat
Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:30 pm
#10
> What a lot of people do is logoff in the room the acklay is in then jump back on every spawn time.
> Usually having doc skills to buff up.
You can't buff in the Acklay room.
The point is still valid though as an organised group can power down to the room in a few minutes and you can solo down there in a decent time too if you play smart.
> Usually having doc skills to buff up.
You can't buff in the Acklay room.
The point is still valid though as an organised group can power down to the room in a few minutes and you can solo down there in a decent time too if you play smart.
Starfellow
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:00 pm
#11
dont blame the WS blame the loot collecters that charge an arm and a leg for something they camp all the time.
Ackley Bones on my server go from 150k to 250k for BASE bones. Add a Slice and quality resources, the cost to make is around 170k-270k. Naturaly, and is true with RL business too, there has to be a mark up for profit which is usualy 50% the cost value makeing BASE ackley weapons 340k-540k. Of corse there is other things to consider such as the results of the slice (which has way more impact then it should, just my two cents) quality of bone (which also has a huge impact on the pricetag of getting them). But if you want cheeper products heres a tip, if you collect all the looted stuff yourself, offer extra of it for a copy of the compleated weapon. As WS generaly dont make as much money as one thinks, they will jump at the opertunity to get high end loot for services rendered.
and on a side note, BASE ackley bones(which gives +65), only adds about an extra +25 as the part it replaces usualy gives around +40. For those uber god weapons ppl all think they should be able to pick up for 100k, expect to pay alot more, because it cost the WS who baught it a heck of alot more just for the parts/schems/resources/equipment then what alot of ppl expect to pay for final weapons.
Ackley Bones on my server go from 150k to 250k for BASE bones. Add a Slice and quality resources, the cost to make is around 170k-270k. Naturaly, and is true with RL business too, there has to be a mark up for profit which is usualy 50% the cost value makeing BASE ackley weapons 340k-540k. Of corse there is other things to consider such as the results of the slice (which has way more impact then it should, just my two cents) quality of bone (which also has a huge impact on the pricetag of getting them). But if you want cheeper products heres a tip, if you collect all the looted stuff yourself, offer extra of it for a copy of the compleated weapon. As WS generaly dont make as much money as one thinks, they will jump at the opertunity to get high end loot for services rendered.
and on a side note, BASE ackley bones(which gives +65), only adds about an extra +25 as the part it replaces usualy gives around +40. For those uber god weapons ppl all think they should be able to pick up for 100k, expect to pay alot more, because it cost the WS who baught it a heck of alot more just for the parts/schems/resources/equipment then what alot of ppl expect to pay for final weapons.
Message Edited by Starfellow on 03-08-2005 07:37 PM
I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:22 am
#12
Starfellow wrote:
dont blame the WS blame the loot collecters that charge an arm and a leg for something they camp all the time.
Ackley Bones on my server go from 150k to 250k for BASE bones. Add a Slice and quality resources, the cost to make is around 170k-270k. Naturaly, and is true with RL business too, there has to be a mark up for profit which is usualy 50% the cost value makeing BASE ackley weapons 340k-540k. Of corse there is other things to consider such as the results of the slice (which has way more impact then it should, just my two cents) quality of bone (which also has a huge impact on the pricetag of getting them). But if you want cheeper products heres a tip, if you collect all the looted stuff yourself, offer extra of it for a copy of the compleated weapon. As WS generaly dont make as much money as one thinks, they will jump at the opertunity to get high end loot for services rendered.
and on a side note, BASE ackley bones(which gives +65), only adds about an extra +25 as the part it replaces usualy gives around +40. For those uber god weapons ppl all think they should be able to pick up for 100k, expect to pay alot more, because it cost the WS who baught it a heck of alot more just for the parts/schems/resources/equipment then what alot of ppl expect to pay for final weapons.Message Edited by Starfellow on 03-08-2005 07:37 PM
Some of the blame lays with the WS, as they're willing to pay that much for the resources. They could all opt not to, bringing the price down. Or better yet, causing the loot campers to stop camping instead.
Starfellow
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:29 pm
#13
I8TheWorm wrote:
Starfellow wrote:
dont blame the WS blame the loot collecters that charge an arm and a leg for something they camp all the time.
Ackley Bones on my server go from 150k to 250k for BASE bones. Add a Slice and quality resources, the cost to make is around 170k-270k. Naturaly, and is true with RL business too, there has to be a mark up for profit which is usualy 50% the cost value makeing BASE ackley weapons 340k-540k. Of corse there is other things to consider such as the results of the slice (which has way more impact then it should, just my two cents) quality of bone (which also has a huge impact on the pricetag of getting them). But if you want cheeper products heres a tip, if you collect all the looted stuff yourself, offer extra of it for a copy of the compleated weapon. As WS generaly dont make as much money as one thinks, they will jump at the opertunity to get high end loot for services rendered.
and on a side note, BASE ackley bones(which gives +65), only adds about an extra +25 as the part it replaces usualy gives around +40. For those uber god weapons ppl all think they should be able to pick up for 100k, expect to pay alot more, because it cost the WS who baught it a heck of alot more just for the parts/schems/resources/equipment then what alot of ppl expect to pay for final weapons.Message Edited by Starfellow on 03-08-2005 07:37 PM
Some of the blame lays with the WS, as they're willing to pay that much for the resources. They could all opt not to, bringing the price down. Or better yet, causing the loot campers to stop camping instead.
Thats not fair to say either. Its like blameing the consumers for wanting the best weapons. So when people only want subpar everyday weapons, then ws wont need looted parts, and thus the price will drop. It just doesnt work like that. But until then we just have to accept the fact people take advantage of the demands of the players and just pay up :/
Message Edited by Starfellow on 03-09-2005 09:30 PM
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