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Thread: A shield..

donnysabertooth
Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:34 pm
#1

would be the coolest thing ever, imagine a nice AP1 one actual sword that would be kcik ass with a shield, thatd be the coolest thing ever i think, i rather have a shield then 2 dual wielding



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Brainplay
Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:29 am
#2

So extra defenses even though the rest of our weapons bounce off of your opponents high base stun armor or NPC's armor and resists.


Is it too much to ask for a chainsaw on stick? Come on they must have chainsaw's in the star wars galaxies.





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Jamoie
Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:24 am
#3

Ive heard a few rumors floating about that we are going to get an AP1 weapon. How much of this is true??
TKzabby
Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:41 am
#4

yeah and a big helmet, with spikes coming out of it, then some big huge fury boots to protect your feet, and wouldn't it be cool to have a couple half naked women hanging on your arms........wait.......this is return of the vikings isn't it?


doh i'm in the wrong forums. Sorry I didn't realize this was suppose to be Star wars, sounded more like Erik the Viking was making a comeback.



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SethlinNetril
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:51 pm
#5

isnt the Vibroblade AP1 ?



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Drunkenjedi420
Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:57 pm
#6

yes it is - Problem is that it is a butter knife. Looks like one at least. It does ok dmg against NPC's but nothing in PvP....


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Daigoro202
Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:35 pm
#7


I would have no problem with a shield. I probably wouldn't use it, butI can buy the fact that cultures within SW would use them.


Just for discussion, how would it work? I would think that when you use a shield, you're no longer attempting to dodge. You're attempting to actually catch the attack with the shield. This should make you much easier to hit, so it would be worth using against for example, kinetic or energy attacks, but if your shield was vulnerable to another damage type, then you might be better off avoiding that attack by dodging rather than trying to catch it.


On the other hand, I don't think a shield should be a liablity-- I'm not all that familiar with Western sword and shield combat, but I would guess that the shield can actuallyhelp to counterbalance to the sword, so maybe you're hitting heavier blows, but not as often.


In any case I think there should be a real costand a realbenefit. The reason is, in MMORPGs, whenever a new type of item like this is introduced, one of two things happen if the cost vs. benefit is not well thought out:


1) If the cost outweighs the benefit, few people use it, and it basically means valuable development time spent for a nice wall decoration.
2) If the benefit outweighs the cost, then it becomes standard equipment and everybody uses it. Rather than creating variety and offering another viable option, it becomes the only option. Right now I like the fact that the fencer can be seen as a streetfighter orduelist, a primitive or traditional warrior, or someone trained in military close quarter fighting tactics. If shields were so great that everybody used them, it would take away from that variety somewhat.








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ken0bi17
Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:08 pm
#8

Please, all we need is more armor to go with PSGs, and 90% (40% stun) comp, buffs, food and near capped defenses. If anything we need more armor piercing, harder hitting weapons.



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SethlinNetril
Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:21 pm
#9

a vibroblade can do some damage so long as there not using composite


i think once the armor and buff revamps come in we shall see alot more pwnage


I can say for myself that if ur not wearing buffs and comp, we are pwners



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ken0bi17
Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:42 am
#10


SethlinNetril wrote:
I can say for myself that if ur not wearing buffs and comp, we are pwners





no one who is a serious pvper (at least on bloodfin) fights without buffs and armor. but you are right, I expect to see the fencer class's damage output to be increased at least a little bit after the combat revamp, hopefully

Message Edited by ken0bi17 on 08-24-2004 04:43 AM

Message Edited by ken0bi17 on 08-24-2004 04:43 AM



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disposable heroes
I walk the earth enshrouded in its darkness
eclipsing, i claim the flesh of man
ageless i remain, with vengeance on my breath
revolted by the meek

Jamoie
Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:46 am
#11

So when is the combat revamp coming around??
MinimeAbala
Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:04 pm
#12

we are, say it with me now, f-e-n-c-e-r-s. what we need is more gracefull, armor piercing weapons. nothing extreme, no more then ap1. they need to be elongated, thin, and quick weapons to match the fencers quick style. similar to a traditional dueling fencing sword. either that or something similar, of the slashing breed, instead of poking. we dont need extra armor, becuase were not armor buffs. we dont need shields, becuase that would defeat the purpose of being a "fencer" (never saw a fencer use a shield) the gaffi's arent bad (should be ap1 though, after all, its got sharpened metal on both ends) stun battons, despite what people think, i think preety cool (dont fit the fencer style at all, but i still like em)



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SethlinNetril
Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:54 am
#13

In pvp yes most wear buffs. If u want to stay alive for a certain amount of time most wear them.


But duels are another matter.


The fencer is the duelist.


So far I am unmatched in duels without buffs or composite. There is life after composite though, Ubese and Padded can both come in handy, and I like Faction armor even though my Rebel Marine suit could of been a bit more designed, but thats for another forum chat.


I have never used PSG's as im a long time veteran of this game and for the LONGEST time they were bugged and im still not sure if theyre blocking damage on my server.





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