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Night sister elders have heavy armor and 100% kinetic resistance. To me this sounds like a pretty simple, cut and dry story. But, someone that I would tend to believe told me he and a friend killed a night sister elder. The friend was carbineer, but even with the guy I know taking all the hits (he was buffed, had armor and is master fencer with some other defense lines thrown in) it still sounds to me like its impossible.

From what I understand, even without the armor, if a creature is 100% kinetic resistant and the weapon you use does kinetic damage, you do no damage. NSE's are also 100% stun resistant, so it wasn't that he was using a stun baton.

He told me he kept seeing you do whatever hit for 2000 or so points of damage. I said that even though it says you did that much damage, it means, that you would have done that much damage if the creature had no resistances and no armor. But, just like our armor blocks a portion of the damage from a hit, so does the NSE's and being 100% resistant to kinetic damage, I'm thinking that you can hit and hit and hit, but nothing happens.

I had two thoughts. One was bleeds. From what I understand, bleeds can bypass resistances, and armor, and I've heard are even not subject to being doged/counterattacked, etc. Could he have done all his damage through bleeds?

Second thought, he did no damage, he just stood there whacking away like a fly on a horse, but, he kept the NSE off the carbineer who did all the damage. The carbineer was doing a knockdown shot, any chace that when the NSE was knocked down, somehow that modifies what can do damage or maybe that the base damage is resisted but the bonus damage isn't?

Thanks for any help or thoughts you've got on this,

Dog

Leftik, the most famous fencer on Ahazi, has soloed a few of them. She COBs, bleeds them then feigns. It took her a very long time to get the routine down, but yeah it can be done.

not sure how they could have done it. even with bleeds that drops her to 1 health - and with no other damage types (blast or energy) then you can't get that last hit in. also, the combat logs are damage before armor or resists. the number than appears over their head is the actual damage done.

The knockdown the Carbineer was using is called charge shot, and unlike every other profession, their KD is totally spammable, no 30 secondtimer,meaning they can just stand there and knock it down OVER AND OVER AND OVER, until the fencers bleeds finally knocked it low enough.While a friend of mine was doing carbineer he used this attack, "Charge Shot 1" to solo kimogila, he never could find any krayt to try it on You can keep anything pinned to the ground using this. The devs say its working as intended, but they only say that because its the only thing in carbineer that even halfway works

I am a master pistoleer and fencer, with the dirty fighting tree in smuggler. I killed a nightsister elder, but it took me about 2-3 hours- no joke. I would panic shot her, lay 4 bleeds down, and then feign death. At the very end, I used bodyshot 3 to kill her. It was extremely boring, and I still don't know if it was worth the +25 kd defense +25 counterattack nighsister polearm with health disease (why couldn't she drop a Gaffi with those stats!)

I believe NPCs have the armor hole thing too...that once in a great while you actually can hit through the 100% kinetic on the Elder. That's just a theory of mine, but I'm sure I've hit armor holes in quite a few other high-kinetic resist creatures before too (whenyou hit once and see their ham bar drop a significant portion).

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Kaynab wrote:
Leftik, the most famous fencer on Ahazi, has soloed a few of them. She COBs, bleeds them then feigns. It took her a very long time to get the routine down, but yeah it can be done.

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Feigns is not a Fencer move.

It is not even a melee move.

Seena

I'm a fencer/smuggler, feign is priceless

yes and soloing a mob in my opionion does not invovle playing dead for 2 hrs. Well Ive come very close to soloing one. Basically what I did was his i had insane buffs 4k health 4k action 4k mind, what i did was kitied it for a few seconds then as it was running thought what the hell ill try a dizzy/lunge and somehow in the 1/10000 chance it stuck i managed to get both fencer bleeds now my basic tactic was just to bleed intimidate warcry. I managed to get her down to 25k health when she usedforce choke follow by that torriud of hate or something move reducing all my stats below prebuff level and i was dead before i could do anything about it. With a Carbineer using there knockdown move i can kill just about anything giant krayts elders etc.

Juddy

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wickedHangover wrote:
I'm a fencer/smuggler, feign is priceless

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Then you are not a Fencer, you are a Fencer/smuggler, and the title of this post should be "Can someone explain how to solo a night sister as a fencer/smuggler" (if you were the author that is)

Seena

another good tactic is decise a rocket launcher as a gaffi

it can be done and with the right mix of classes you have a wide range of weeapons you can use. yes fencers are limited to kenitic and stun, but if you smater some pistol in there you not only have 4 bleeds running you can kite her. it is not done with just strait fencing you have to use ALL your skills. what about a MCH master fencer they could do it with a stack of pet stims all your stat efetcs still go through your bleeds still hurt KD/dizzy still drops them ya you are not doing anything but bleeding DMG per say but your att are helping alot for what evert else you are doing

I am Blademaster with alot of other defense, I fought a Nightsister Elder with my bf who is a Master Heavy Swordsman, I used all bleeds I had while he hit with his blast hammer, I don't know how but I was doing damage even though it says 100% Kinetic resist (I used my gaderiffi baton) It took a really long time with that 320k HAM she had, I was buffed and using my best composite, I tank it while he stood behind me and we both hit. Eventually it incapacitated me but he is also master doctor so he used drag corpse and drag me around while the nightsister elder tried to walk up and death blow me heh. It took us a long time and we finally did it, with no deaths only me incapacitated and had to redo my muon gold.

Also about the carbineer spam, try shooting a Nightsister Elder and see how many times it actually KDs, most high level things have very high KD resistance now I could only KD her twice the whole fight I think.

was too hectic to take any before the end heh