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Thread: Melee Weapon enhancements are crap.

KaliMirchi
Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:50 am
#1

This may change with the new Genosian sword cores (which btw willNOT workin Gads, which use a reinforcement core), but we still fall far behind ranged when it comes to things like krayt tissues and other looted parts like power blaster handlers.



Rancor teeth are a joke. They not only lead to HUGE ham increases, they also INCREASE the speed of the weapon. Bleh.





Here is a link to a post where a smith has actually experimented with rancor teeth:



http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=34722


Fury - hopefully you can do something about bringing our enhancements (weapons in general actually) up to par- with the new changes in Combatwe are going tosee a huge change in our effectiveness..



Seena



SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

mookee
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:28 am
#2

i agree partially. Melee is more powerful in general..i mean ive played swordsman, fencer, tka (only brawler pikes). and they get more defenses, toughness, status defenses..etc etc. because just about any rifleman would be dead if some other melee got up close to him, that is why ranged powerups and ranged weapons in general get that advantage..for balance issues.

i really dont even need to powerup my melee weapons, i chew up any piket just fine without powerups, hell i can fight unarmed (no weapon) and kick ass.

the best melee powerup ive seen was 32% less mind cost, 15% more max dmg. i bought a few crates you can bet



Flurry - Mookee
Tabcef
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:49 am
#3

....a rifleman can take me out in one shot....this isn't with a kryat weapon either

a carbineer/bh maybe 2 shots

a pistoleer/bh maybe 2-4 shots


not fair and balanced as you would think



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mookee
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:02 am
#4



Tabcef wrote:
....a rifleman can take me out in one shot....this isn't with a kryat weapon either
a carbineer/bh maybe 2 shots
a pistoleer/bh maybe 2-4 shots
not fair and balanced as you would think





question...are you wearing armor? what kind? composite? ubese? what type of resists?
and how often are you buffed?

ive never had a problem with rifleman, because LOS is a problem for them, you can use buildings or even trees to your advantage. wear a composite helmet in the LEAST, with 80-90% resists and a stun layer if you can...no price is too big to protect your noggin

im also always buffed since my alt is a doctor, so call me spoiled if you will



Flurry - Mookee
mookee
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:35 am
#5

er i just noticed my mistake, sorry just woke up as far as melee weapon ENHANCEMENTS and not POWERUPS...thats agreeable, but again its a matter of balancing, if you had guys running around with krayt rancor toothed vibroknucklers, how would that be? its fair considering how easily a rifleman drops when he gets within 20m of a melee



Flurry - Mookee
KaliMirchi
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:54 am
#6






mookee wrote:
i agree partially. Melee is more powerful in general..i mean ive played swordsman, fencer, tka (only brawler pikes). and they get more defenses, toughness, status defenses..etc etc. because just about any rifleman would be dead if some other melee got up close to him, that is why ranged powerups and ranged weapons in general get that advantage..for balance issues.

i really dont even need to powerup my melee weapons, i chew up any piket just fine without powerups, hell i can fight unarmed (no weapon) and kick ass.

the best melee powerup ive seen was 32% less mind cost, 15% more max dmg. i bought a few crates you can bet






Um... I don't think so. My weaponsmith makes rifles with higher damage than any of our weapons. Sliced for speed in a Master's hand, the DPS is greater than us, with less HAM.




Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

KaliMirchi
Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:02 am
#7






Tabcef wrote:

....a rifleman can take me out in one shot....this isn't with a kryat weapon either

a carbineer/bh maybe 2 shots

a pistoleer/bh maybe 2-4 shots


not fair and balanced as you would think







This is absolutely correct. I've never seen any melee one hit a DB.



It happens more than once in awhilewith ranged - due to their ability to target mind.



And you shouldn't have to wear armor to prevent this. (If melee aren't capable of doing it as well).



Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

KaliMirchi
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:47 pm
#8






Monoxide187 wrote:

When I have a pup on my gaffi I one-hit incap people who dont have armor, buffs, or melee mitigation easily.










Bull.





Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

mookee
Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:06 pm
#9



Monoxide187 wrote:
When I have a pup on my gaffi I one-hit incap people who dont have armor, buffs, or melee mitigation easily.






haha yea, who cant one hit incap teffed tailors/image designers , thats not the point she was trying to make.



Flurry - Mookee
Awon
Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:18 pm
#10

Ok i have to agree with the statement that melee weapons need some sort of power up and its not a balance issue they can run away from us and we really cant do much unless we get within 20m of one of the range players thats sussposed to be there advantage.


I used to be a rifleman really really early in the game after i had master fencer and it was pretty easy to 1hit incap people did it frequently. As i fencer i have 1hit incaped someone twice once with a gaff and once with a stun baton. They were both very lucky 1handed hit 3 for mind damage.
Monoxide187
Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:43 am
#11

When I have a pup on my gaffi I one-hit incap people who dont have armor, buffs, or melee mitigation easily.





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LuapLink
Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:26 am
#12






KaliMirchi wrote:

This may change with the new Genosian sword cores (which btw willNOT workin Gads, which use a reinforcement core), but we still fall far behind ranged when it comes to things like krayt tissues and other looted parts like power blaster handlers.






The geonosians also drop Geonosian reinforced cores, both as drops and as normal drops and as schematics. I'm having a MWS (an alt of STGabriel the HS correspondent) make some Gaffs for me using powercubes I had looted, but he has been recovering from the flu so has not had a chance to make them yet. Also I have heard but not yet been able to confirm that the Acklay in the Geo base can drop 'Acklay bone' that is a melee weapon enhancement.



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Tithas
Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:31 am
#13

Wear armor? what about us wookies who cannot wear armor ?



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