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Thread: Is Fencer really all thats its cracked up to be
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yohmama
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:28 pm
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A thoguht a acoured to me that most armour people wear is sliced for 80% kinectic slied, yet people say fencers are awsome when it comes to pvp. Im going master tera kasi/master fencer and I just wanted to know if this is a good combo and why fencer is so good with pvp even though 805 of whats delt is reduced.
LuapLink
Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:01 am
#2
Fencers abilities lie in their defences, between out ranged/melee defences and dodge we are very hard to hit, someone could be using a legendary weapon that can do massive damage but it means nothing if they miss you.
oblivion3134
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:36 pm
#3
yohmama wrote:
A thoguht a acoured to me that most armour people wear is sliced for 80% kinectic slied, yet people say fencers are awsome when it comes to pvp. Im going master tera kasi/master fencer and I just wanted to know if this is a good combo and why fencer is so good with pvp even though 805 of whats delt is reduced.
It is more than 80% when you factor in the fact that we have no armor peircing weapons. Even our saving grace anti-armor type weapon thing gets reduced horribly by armor, since no one doesnt have stun armor now. Fencer damage output is not, and was not recently, ever really good. Fencer/TKA puts your passive defense mods very high, and as a result you will be really hard to kill. You will be a good tank.
Shflow
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:45 pm
#4
After the scatter shiak "fix" we're not as good in pvp as we were (against prepared people), but we do ok still. Btw, you don't use a gaffi stick (kenetic) in pvp, you use a stun baton. Some composite armor have no stun resists.
Eniako
Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:07 pm
#5
LuapLink wrote:
Fencers abilities lie in their defences, between out ranged/melee defences and dodge we are very hard to hit, someone could be using a legendary weapon that can do massive damage but it means nothing if they miss you.
What they said 
Defense, Defense, Defence. This applies to PvE and PvP.
I thought I loved TKM, until I became a Master Fencer 
Spence-
Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:59 pm
#6
People get fencer for the defenses most dabble in it and to me that is exploiting the profs really only positive bonus.
Straker_Atrella
Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:45 pm
#7
Well Stun armor only comes max like 45% so even a great slice wont take you up to 80% so it's not as bad as you think.
Plus Ackley bones also help Fencers hit harder.
Don't get me wrong, we do hit a properly prepared person for crap, but it's not that bad.
Think of it like this. You hit somebody6 times for 75 each swing, for a total of 450. The other person swings at you6 times and hits once for 300. Who wins? Defenses are huge.
oblivion3134
Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:00 pm
#8
Straker_Atrella wrote:
Well Stun armor only comes max like 45% so even a great slice wont take you up to 80% so it's not as bad as you think.
Plus Ackley bones also help Fencers hit harder.
Don't get me wrong, we do hit a properly prepared person for crap, but it's not that bad.
Think of it like this. You hit somebody6 times for 75 each swing, for a total of 450. The other person swings at you6 times and hits once for 300. Who wins? Defenses are huge.
Stun armor comes out around 65 base or so.
True that we hit people without stun protection for a decent amount though.
But yea, defenses are what makes fencer good, so blind as much as possible and stay centered all the time and youll be impossible to hit.
LSswg61
Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:08 pm
#9
let us not forget the Center of Balance...which does boost our dodge up to really nice levels, I hit that and I hardly ever get hit....even in PVP.
ChilastraBH
Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:56 am
#10
with food & top notch weapons & armor its a potent force in PvP
Brainplay
Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:17 am
#11
I dueled a TKM/fencer and lost a while back (my other char. is a fencer/doc). When I saw that my stun baton wasn't doing squat for damage I switched to my vibroblade (180max damage). When the fight was over he was so hyped up about our "new" weapon since he had never heard of it then had the nerve to compare it to his VK's. Sad that our only ap1 weapon is neglected into obsurity isn't it.
Straker_Atrella wrote:
Well Stun armor only comes max like 45% so even a great slice wont take you up to 80% so it's not as bad as you think. The stun baton is AP0 so any defense vs. stun like a psg or stun layered armor and the damage gets an automatic 50% damage reduction THEN has to be calculated against the resists. If you hit a 45% stun chestplate for 200 it goes ( 200 -50%= 100 -45%= 55) ALL stunweapons unenhanced are usually low damage compared to regular damage weapons so you'll have to be quick on your feet to keep up with someone who's prepared
Plus Ackley bones also help Fencers hit harder. But are still rare
Don't get me wrong, we do hit a properly prepared person for crap, but it's not that bad.
Think of it like this. You hit somebody6 times for 75 each swing, for a total of 450. The other person swings at you6 times and hits once for 300. Who wins? Defenses are huge.
Straker_Atrella
Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:39 pm
#12
oblivion3134 wrote:
Straker_Atrella wrote:
Well Stun armor only comes max like 45% so even a great slice wont take you up to 80% so it's not as bad as you think.
Plus Ackley bones also help Fencers hit harder.
Don't get me wrong, we do hit a properly prepared person for crap, but it's not that bad.
Think of it like this. You hit somebody6 times for 75 each swing, for a total of 450. The other person swings at you6 times and hits once for 300. Who wins? Defenses are huge.
Stun armor comes out around 65 base or so.
True that we hit people without stun protection for a decent amount though.
But yea, defenses are what makes fencer good, so blind as much as possible and stay centered all the time and youll be impossible to hit.
Yes the base protections are 65% but Stun isn't one of them. Look at your stun Armor, the Stun value is lower then the others. Max is about 45%.
Ackley bones are more rare but as more and more get out, the prices will come down.
A vibroblade also can slice up to over 200. That is not a bad weapon.
Shflow
Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:19 pm
#13
Well lets see...I have around a 475 max damage stun baton. Yesterday, I was fighting Rifleman/Swordsman who had around a 35% stun comp armor, 45% stun psg, and sythesteak (not sure how to spell that heh). I was taking about 40 damage off of him...40 damage. Then later on, 3 fencer buddies of mine were beating on a prepared pikeman. We beated on him for about 5 or so minutes, and didn't make a dent in him...we had to get a rifleman buddy to take him down. I love fencer and I'll most likely never drop it. But that's just depressing 
I need to get ahold of a nice damage sliced vibroblade, or really high damage acklay gaffi stick
Message Edited by Shflow on 07-03-2004 07:22 PM
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