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Thread: Fencer questions

sennje
Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:08 am
#1

Hi, I'm currently a TKM grinding out my 2nd Holo (Droig Eng) since its so slow due to lack of resources I thought I'd check out fencing, since it was on my 'to do' list. I hit novice fencer last night and went up a couple of boxes (pre-built up combat xp) now I need to start dropping TKA boxes but I just realised that my stats are a bit abnormal for a brawler class because I was using the TKA powerboost to compensate.


So I was wondering whats the best stats for Fencer and what sort of armour should I be looking at getting, also what type of weapon should I use, currently I'm using a sliced curved sword but I also have a gaffi stick and a stun baton to use.


Apologies if these questions have already been answered recently in another thread, the search function doesnt seem to be working atm for me.


sennje
Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:09 am
#2

Uh ignore the weapon question, I think I need my eyes tested :>


wickedHangover
Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:16 am
#3

I went up the first 3 trees evenly, since last tree is all combat xp, i did it as i could. If i was do do it over, i would do all footwork first, then go up 1 and 3 evenly. But that's me.





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ziploc
Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:13 pm
#4

What's the best way to grind fencer?
What weapons to use?
What trees to do first and why?
What mobs to kill?
Any help will be most appreciated.



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evetsleep
Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:55 pm
#5










ziploc wrote:
What's the best way to grind fencer? Get doc buffs, chef brandy,and kill stuff really (as to what thats in your last question)
What weapons to use? Until I mastered footwork I used a speed sliced 1h curved sword and a speed sliced stun baton. Once I hit the speed cap (footwork 4) I used a 35% damage sliced gaderiffi stick and a 32% damage sliced stun baton.
What trees to do first and why? I went up footwork 1st for the speed and the spin attack2. Hitting the speed cap makes the other boxes go by faster. I did Footwork, Tech, and then Stances. Tech gave bodyhit3, which I used to grind a bit faster. Finess comes naturally, so it really doesnt matter. Some may say go Footwork, Stances, and then Tech. I think either works.
What mobs to kill? I would suggest quenkers on Dantooine first until you get Footwork 4. Then go to Endor and kill everything you can. I was able to do Endor easily because I am also a TKM, lots of mobs poison and bleed here, but they give excellent XP. Last night I got 800k 1h xp on one set of doc buffs (2 hours).
Any help will be most appreciated.






I certainly don't think my way is the best or optimal for everyone, but for me it works out pretty well.


Message Edited by evetsleep on 03-26-2004 01:55 PM

Message Edited by evetsleep on 03-26-2004 01:56 PM




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ziploc
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:06 pm
#6

thanks alot! beeng using these tactics, though my computer fried and i'd already be master if it wasn't for that. 2/4/3/3 isn't bad though.



J'ack Burton
Serial Killer ~ Master Bater ~ Truck Driver
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EisMan_Buckeye
Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:35 pm
#7



What's the best way to grind fencer?



I find an industrial sized meat grinder works best.



What weapons to use?



Now, this is just a rumor I heard, but supposedly, the one handed melee weapons work best.



What trees to do first and why?



Pine. They smell better.



What mobs to kill?



Apparently Johnny Sack and "Little Carmine" aren't too thrilled with having to share power. It might be advantageous to hit one of them and frame the other for it. Then hit the other as an act of "revenge" or "justice".With both of them out of the way,you'd have control overa good dealof New Jersey and New York.




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Jolcon
Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:17 pm
#8






EisMan_Buckeye wrote:



What's the best way to grind fencer?



I find an industrial sized meat grinder works best.



What weapons to use?



Now, this is just a rumor I heard, but supposedly, the one handed melee weapons work best.



What trees to do first and why?



Pine. They smell better.



What mobs to kill?



Apparently Johnny Sack and "Little Carmine" aren't too thrilled with having to share power. It might be advantageous to hit one of them and frame the other for it. Then hit the other as an act of "revenge" or "justice".With both of them out of the way,you'd have control overa good dealof New Jersey and New York.







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Dmac420
Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:43 am
#9

Just got master fencer and love it!! but i have some questions.


1. were are some nice places to get DoT one handed swords?

2. what armor attachments work?

3. what is speed damage and dodge cap at?

4. will a Master Fencer with 1-0-4-3 Pistoleer take out NS elder? (i will have to damage it with pistol will i still be able to tank it?)

5. what are good armor attachments to get? (speed, damage, defence?)

6. do the bleeds in fencer and pistoleer mix?





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LuapLink
Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:24 am
#10






Dmac420 wrote:

Just got master fencer and love it!! but i have some questions.


1. were are some nice places to get DoT one handed swords?

2. what armor attachments work?

3. what is speed damage and dodge cap at?

4. will a Master Fencer with 1-0-4-3 Pistoleer take out NS elder? (i will have to damage it with pistol will i still be able to tank it?)

5. what are good armor attachments to get? (speed, damage, defence?)

6. do the bleeds in fencer and pistoleer mix?







1. DoT are dropped by a range of mobs. Swords are dropped by Nyax mobs, Gaffis by Tusken, Knives by Janta/Mokks, and I've head of Vibroblades from followers of Erran Sif on Talus.


2. Speed, accuracy, dodge all work, no-one is quite sure if melee damage works but they don't give that much of a bonus anyway.



3. Secondary defences such as Dodge cap at 125. Speed is calculated with the following formula


Actual speed =Speed of Weapon* Special Delay * (1-(100/Speed mod))


So if you have a speed of 100 then you can use any weapon with any special with a speed of 0, so you are always hitting the speed cap.


4. Basically no, in this game defenses work by effecting your opponents ability to hit you, however NS Elders (and all High level mobs) have unholy accuracy, as a result they will always hit you. They also have heavy armour and strong defences making all fencer weapons pretty useless against them,they also have over 200K HAM. You can try if you have brilliant armour (that you will probably have to dump after) and a Doctor healing you, but it will take a long time.


5. Don't bother with speed atm (although after the combat revamp they may be useful) as at Master Fencer you will always be hitting the speed cap. Damage tapes can only give a max +25 bonus so their worth is not that great.Defence tapes are alwaysgood, you can't get enough defences in this game.


6. Err can't remember, there was some changes to DoTs stacking not that long ago, I can't rememberif it effected mixing bleeds from different proffesions since pistoleer and Fencer bleed the same HAM bar.







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Dmac420
Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:16 pm
#11

Thanks for the info very usefull. i have some more questions about Stun Baton now.


1.how many aclay bones do you need to make a stun baton?


2.what are the stats to a stun baton made with the lowest Aclay bone stats?


3. what are the stats and price of a stun baton made with really good aclay bones?


all i can think of ATM





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TheNiceGuy
Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:36 pm
#12






LuapLink wrote:





Dmac420 wrote:

Just got master fencer and love it!! but i have some questions.


1. were are some nice places to get DoT one handed swords?

2. what armor attachments work?

3. what is speed damage and dodge cap at?

4. will a Master Fencer with 1-0-4-3 Pistoleer take out NS elder? (i will have to damage it with pistol will i still be able to tank it?)

5. what are good armor attachments to get? (speed, damage, defence?)

6. do the bleeds in fencer and pistoleer mix?







1. DoT are dropped by a range of mobs. Swords are dropped by Nyax mobs, Gaffis by Tusken, Knives by Janta/Mokks, and I've head of Vibroblades from followers of Erran Sif on Talus.


2. Speed, accuracy, dodge all work, no-one is quite sure if melee damage works but they don't give that much of a bonus anyway.



3. Secondary defences such as Dodge cap at ****125****. Speed is calculated with the following formula


Actual speed =Speed of Weapon* Special Delay * (1-(100/Speed mod))


So if you have a speed of 100 then you can use any weapon with any special with a speed of 0, so you are always hitting the speed cap.


4. Basically no, in this game defenses work by effecting your opponents ability to hit you, however NS Elders (and all High level mobs) have unholy accuracy, as a result they will always hit you. They also have heavy armour and strong defences making all fencer weapons pretty useless against them,they also have over 200K HAM. You can try if you have brilliant armour (that you will probably have to dump after) and a Doctor healing you, but it will take a long time.


5. Don't bother with speed atm (although after the combat revamp they may be useful) as at Master Fencer you will always be hitting the speed cap. Damage tapes can only give a max +25 bonus so their worth is not that great.Defence tapes are alwaysgood, you can't get enough defences in this game.


6. Err can't remember, there was some changes to DoTs stacking not that long ago, I can't rememberif it effected mixing bleeds from different proffesions since pistoleer and Fencer bleed the same HAM bar.










Look at question 3. um i am a master pistoler fencer ATM and i have a 135 dodge



SHONDOU ZORAK



LuapLink
Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:18 am
#13

You can get a dodge number over 125 but the extra is not counted, just like skill attachments and BE tissues can give you a large bonus but only the first 25 is counted.



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