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Thread: 4templates im considering help me decide!!!
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MagicalHAt
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:41 pm
#1
Ok im looking to be really good at pvp and good at pve.
my 3 choices are as follows
Template 1
Master Fencer
Master Brawler
Doctor 4030
Template 2
Master Fencer
Doctor 4000
Combat medic 3004
Template 3
Master Fencer
Master doctor
scout 1000
Template 4
Master fencer
4030 doc
0004 cm
Which of these will be best at pvp??
Im sorta leaning to number 1 because it will be cheaper to maintain
Wiht Doctor at 4030 or 4000
I can cure poison and diease and heal Status effects
(aka never be knocked down etc........)
Message Edited by MagicalHAt on 06-24-2004 08:59 PM
AvaLance
Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:49 pm
#2
Pasted from GCW forum, edited to fit the fourth template you added:
Well, you're smart for choosing fencer, but I'd actually recommend going with something different. I'll comment on each of your templates and add one of my own to try to help you out.
Template 1:
Master Fencer
Master Brawler
Doctor 4/0/3/0
Well, Fencer is cool, and so is Doctor, but I have no idea why you want Master Brawler. It seems to be a craze or something nowadays. All it really gets you is a CoB that lasts a couple seconds longer, and a few more useful specials. In my opinion, Intimidationand Warcry 2 are just not worth all the extra skill points. Lunge 2 is rendered useless by +90 knockdown defense foods, which are commonly turned out by good chefs.
Template 2:
Master Fencer
Doctor 4/0/0/0
Combat Medic 3/0/0/4
Admittedly, combat medic is cool, and doctor is smart so you can heal states. But personally, I'd stick with one or the other. You don't have enough doctor to buff, res, or craft, and you don't have enough combat medic to use the best poisons and diseases. Fencer is still cool, though.
Template 3:
Master Fencer
Master Doctor
Scout 1/0/0/0
Probably the smartest build you have up here. I love Master Doctor. I can buff myself whenever I want, resuscitate my friends, heal whatever health/action damage/wounds I take whenever I want, heal my states...I could go on. It's great.
Template 4:
Master Fencer
Doctor 4/0/3/0
Combat Medic 0/0/0/4
Not smart, in my opinion. You're taking the medicine knowledge tree of doc, which isn't really necessary if all you're taking is state healing. You're not using enough of combat medic to take full advantage of it. Fencer, as always, is ideal.
Template5 (My Recommendation):
Master Fencer
Doctor 4/4/4/0
Teras Kasi 0/3/0/0-OR- Teras Kasi 0/0/0/3
This will be your self-sufficient tank build. You can use all but the very best buff packs, you can resuscitate, heal all states, heal wounds and damage like a madman. Pop some Havla and you'll be able to buff three people in about 20 seconds. Choose the Balance line of Teras Kasi if you're into state defenses, or the Precision Striking tree if you like melee/ranged defense and specific-pool attacks. You also get a cool knockdown if you take Balance. If you really want to get the last of those Teras Kasi lines, you could surrender the Master Fencer box, since all it gets you is hit3, which isn't great. Doing this gets you either Teras Kasi's dizzy-knockdown combo attack, or its specific-mind-target attack. Both very cool moves.
Anyway, that's my two cents. I'm a Master Doctor through and through, so maybe I'm biased. Hope it helps.
Regards. 
ken0bi17
Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:48 am
#3
AvaLance wrote:Template 5 (My Recommendation):Master FencerDoctor 4/4/4/0Teras Kasi 0/3/0/0-OR- Teras Kasi 0/0/0/3This will be your self-sufficient tank build. You can use all but the very best buff packs, you can resuscitate, heal all states, heal wounds and damage like a madman. Pop some Havla and you'll be able to buff three people in about 20 seconds. Choose the Balance line of Teras Kasi if you're into state defenses, or the Precision Striking tree if you like melee/ranged defense and specific-pool attacks. You also get a cool knockdown if you take Balance. If you really want to get the last of those Teras Kasi lines, you could surrender the Master Fencer box, since all it gets you is hit3, which isn't great. Doing this gets you either Teras Kasi's dizzy-knockdown combo attack, or its specific-mind-target attack. Both very cool moves.
I think I may try this template. Thanks for the reccommendation, AvaLance
MagicalHAt
Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:44 am
#4
wouldnt 0003 tka be better than 0300 since you can cure states?
MagicalHAt
Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:58 am
#5
o ya the reason why i like master brawler so much is because......
Intimdate 2
Warcry 2
Protteus
Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:26 pm
#6
If you want 4000 doctor you need to take up 4030 for the med use to use decent cures. I'd suggest either the Mfencer/Mdoc or Mfencer/4030doc/defense stacking.
AvaLance
Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:59 pm
#7
MagicalHAt wrote:
o ya the reason why i like master brawler so much is because......
Intimdate 2
Warcry 2
Well, Warcry is really only good in PvE situations or very very VERY organized PvP, so I wouldn't say it's great for a fencer. Intimidate 2 is always useful, but I still say that it's not worth a whole profession mastery.
NoonTV
Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:51 pm
#8
People underestimate the power of warcry even if it did get nerfed. 
AvaLance
Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:31 pm
#9
NoonTV wrote:
People underestimate the power of warcry even if it did get nerfed.
No offense, but fencers don't really have any business using crowd control moves. The way they're situated right now they're just a PvP class. Not only that, but it's a toss-up between that and the good Doctor / Teras Kasi abilities. Me, I'll take the buffs and defenses any day.
ibanzai
Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:20 am
#10
I'll go for the 3rd template ...
However, remember it will not be so useful in high-end PVE ...
Ol'
hampton_hamster
Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:19 pm
#11
i have template 4, i own with it but i m a veteran pvpr on my server and i buy most of my poisins custom made from when i camped the fire breathing spider the first few days of geon open. so my poisins r 500+ strength made by a 12 point cm crafter. i can cure states, heal poisins in moderate lvls unless its a MCM then it takes about 3-4 cures.
LSM_Vader
Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:16 am
#12
Template 3 that is what i am, and i do very very well with it
MagicalHAt
Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:49 pm
#13
lol krusty
its me magichat
I am now
Master Fencer
Doc 4440
TKA 0003
Once they put in the patch to stop weapon switching i cant see me losing 1 on 1 battles any more....
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