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Thread: 1 Shot Fencer in PVP?

Zolac1999
Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:05 am
#1

I was in a PVP battle wearing some good Kryat composite armor, approx 48% special resists acorss the board. Of course it is still vunerable to sun. I was hit by a fencer for 762 damage in my action bar and was incapped. Now I am also going the fencer route, but never haveI been able to do an attack like that. That would equal 3K damage in PVE right?Is thiscommon? Can fencers one shot other players?What am I doing wrong? Can you slice, powerup a baton to do that kind of damage? OR was that just the luckiest shot ever done.


Please not that I am nowhere near a master yet.


And BTW by stats are , I think, 700/600/600/700/600/600/700/600/600 Might be off a bit, but you get the idea.




Shamarra
Chalise // Elder Dancer
Ardent // Medic
Formerly known as Amaya Austin ofRogue Squadron, Tarquinas

Minerunner
Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:20 am
#2

If you were on the ground, the Master Fencer hit you with a Damage Sliced 16% Damage power up on a perfectly crafted Stun baton with 1hand hit 3 you can get hit for that.


I routinely see 3K hits in PVE when I have a weapon equiped that it is vulnerable to, it is knocked down, and I get a good hit with 1hand hit 3. Vibro Blade against kinetic vulnerable targets get even higher...


Just so you are aware some of us Blademasters spend days looking for the best weapons crafted on our server when we need new weapons.... then we buy sometimes a dozen of them so we can ensure a close to or Max Damage slice... Incidentally you can often find decent well sliced for speed one handed weapons on the bazzar from Blademasters attempting to recoup some of that cost...


I know I can and have spent over 100k for a set of perfectly crafted max Damage Sliced VB/StunBat/GadBat/Curved Sword.


Which means if you take the time to get the best equipment you can see that.


And if you weren't knocked down, then it was likely a jedi who attacked you =).





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Minerunner
Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:25 am
#3

Oh but to date the best PVP hit I've gotten was only 640 on an Unarmored knocked down target with a GadBat at 335Max Damage. I'm thinking it might have been a Jedi with a 5th generation one handed Saber those push close to 3500Max Damagedepending on the Krayt Pearls used to make it and if they exploited to get it sliced when they could.


In otherwords one non special hit from that Lightsaber would produce at least 700+ damage pvp. one of their specials would produce upwards of 1400+ pvp damage.


Upside is they rarely can score a hit on a Fencer.





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Minerunner
Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:26 am
#4

Make that they can rarely score a hit on a Fencer as a Initiate. =)



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TaimaishuYun
Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:46 am
#5

wait so your going fencer now because u got incaped by one?



oh no PLEASE dont make fencers the new commandos... aaaaaaaaah






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eveready9999
Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:30 am
#6



TaimaishuYun wrote:

wait so your going fencer now because u got incaped by one?

oh no PLEASE dont make fencers the new commandos... aaaaaaaaah






I think he was saying that he was already going fencer and was surprised because he has never seen and/or done an attack like that himself.
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Zolac1999
Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:13 am
#7

mmm never thought of a jedi. And no, I wasnot knocked down. Best shot I have ever done to a vunerable standing target is about 150 or so.


Since we are on the subject, would anyone like to post their average damage to standing targets? PVP and PVE...




Shamarra
Chalise // Elder Dancer
Ardent // Medic
Formerly known as Amaya Austin ofRogue Squadron, Tarquinas

Zolac1999
Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:55 am
#8

Wanted to add, are most fencers using a stun baton able to drop an opponent in 3- 4 body shots? IE 4-5 seconds? I notice most players wear composite armor with about 700- 800 health. and we hit them for about 200 - 250 a shot. I have never been able, but I not not a master. Just wonder if it is something to look forward to. =)



Shamarra
Chalise // Elder Dancer
Ardent // Medic
Formerly known as Amaya Austin ofRogue Squadron, Tarquinas

Raphayl
Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:30 pm
#9

Well, let;s see. Looking at a best case scenario of a decent Stun Baton with max damage slice, getting 4max hits with /melee1hBodyHit3, opponent either has no armor or the armor is vulnerable to Stun:


Stun Baton max damage 133, after slice would be 178.


Basic Fencer damage multiplier of x1.86 makes that 331.


BodyHit3 damage multiplier of x3.5 makes that 1159.


4 max hits adds up to 4636 damage.


The 75% PvP damage reduction takes this back down to 1159


800 health / 1159 damage = 69%


100-69= 31%


Unless someone had +31 Toughness or more, they would be down. So I would say this wouldbepossible on a weaker opponent, but improbable on a more advanced one.


Also, if your opponent has Mitigation3, the end damage would only be 931. With average Toughness (30?) it brings this down to 652. Not enough to do the job. I'd say it would take2-3more max hits to take this person down.


Since we don't max hit every time, a more realistic scenario would more than likely take about 10-12 hits. If by chance they were prone (x1.5 damage), then it would be much faster. Or if you were to use a damage powerup, that would also help.

Minerunner
Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:57 pm
#10

Raph don't forget that in PVP you have your opponant spamming specials costing them HAM,for instance Master BH spamming eyeshot loses a nice chunk of HAM unless buffed. So 3-4 hits is common especially if they've kited you a bit doing specials till you landed a lunge 2.




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Green_Arrow
Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:24 pm
#11

When I was at just One-Hand III, I hit for 2150 on a prone NPC and berserk.





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Minerunner
Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:27 pm
#12

Would that be one hand Saber 3? *cough*




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Kherab
Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:26 pm
#13

my record hit was 1.7k.... at novice fencer with one hand hit 2 on a standing animal. granted average was usualy like 800-1k and i suspected that hit somehow was the sum of 2 hits and had buged to show as one.

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