Entertainer Archive

I seem to remember seeing some similar ideas presented about a year ago on, I think, the dancer forum. It's an interesting concept and one that might be fun if, and this is a HUGE if, they remove afk play. As it stands on Shadowfire right now we have afktainers who never move from a spot unless there's a server restart or they lose power. It would basically mean any collection of zombies could set up shop in cantinas that get traffic and leave live entertainers with Outposts on Endor or Rori or any other out of the way location.

But the idea of a "house band", if you will, has some unique possibilities.

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Ikewe wrote:

But the idea of a "house band", if you will, has some unique possibilities.

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I guess it would clear the way for ambient player Music!

I see something like that having the potential for griefing, where a group of entertainers holds the prime real estate indefinitely. Realistically, instead of seeking out other venues, entertainers will go on the wait list for Coronet or Theed. But even assuming that entertainers spread out to other cantinas, as long as the number of patrons has no effect on the speed of service, there is no incentive for the patrons to spread out to other locations, since Coro and Theed are sure things, and there is no incentive to go to an alternate location.

Sounds like a great idea, but since the CU groups are maxed at 8 now. Would have been great when groups were not held to 8 people. What if you are one of the unlucky entertainers to be left out of the group of 8, and not able to form a second group?

Message Edited by RenObiOne on 06-27-2005 09:03 PM

I'm ok with this as long as there is an active requirement. So, you have to go re-sign up to be on the entertainment list every 15 minutes... and it has to be done away from the floor so it can't be automated. The floor area would have to be the actual area where you are performing and it should be a real zone with boundaries, like the stage area in the theater quest.

You'd have to go to the back of the cantina and talk to the manager, then you'd have to get out onto the floor area in a set amount of time. If you don't, then you get kicked off the list and the next person waiting has a chance to take your place.

The last time this was talked about, it was as a way to be paid a cantina salary... which is how I think it should be done and the pay should be substantial.

I totally oppose this idea, because it's too easily used as a griefing tool. AFKing aside, any 4 entertainers + 4 bots (one each) could block the entire cantina from having anyone else perform in it. That's not acceptable.

C

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Panthu wrote:

I'm ok with this as long as there is an active requirement. So, you have to go re-sign up to be on the entertainment list every 15 minutes... and it has to be done away from the floor so it can't be automated. The floor area would have to be the actual area where you are performing and it should be a real zone with boundaries, like the stage area in the theater quest.

You'd have to go to the back of the cantina and talk to the manager, then you'd have to get out onto the floor area in a set amount of time. If you don't, then you get kicked off the list and the next person waiting has a chance to take your place.

The last time this was talked about, it was as a way to be paid a cantina salary... which is how I think it should be done and the pay should be substantial.

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I can not believe you would want to be forced every 15 minutes to stop playing and sign up for a silly list. To me that is forced down time and you know no one wants thst anymore!

also think of the new player, buys the game... Decided to try entertaining, rushes to the cantina to sit and wait to start playing. Don't even try to tell me the group would welcome this new player right away.

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Tammylynn wrote:
I can not believe you would want to be forced every 15 minutes to stop playing and sign up for a silly list. To me that is forced down time and you know no one wants thst anymore!

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No, I don't think it should be a forced thing, I think it should be a way to earn income. It's much more viable than our current missions which you haveto leave the cantina to roll, then travel to the cantina, then spend ten minutes dancing, then leave the social setting to go roll again, then travel back, blah blah blah. It's a pain. It also takes us out of the social environment for a pretty significant amount of time for only 10 minutes inside of the cantina.

The way I was talking about would only have you run to the back of the cantina every 15 minutes. That doesn't take you totally out of the social setting, you are still in the building. Moving my char every 15 mins to get paid does not seem like a big deal. I'm always ATK, so it's not like I can't be bothered to move my mouse or hit a key every 15 mins.

Clearing off floor space for Ents has always been a big deal in a crowded Cantina. This method would have a designated central viewing location where only Ents on the list could enter. Sure, you could dance "off stage", but you wouldn't get paid for it and you couldn't drift into the area with the live Ents.

Yeah, I love this method as long as it's done the way I described. I don't know why any ATK Ent wouldn't. *shrug*

I also think this new "stage area" should be opened up to real bands and dance troupes at set intervals, sort of like the Jedi challenges, so we could have battle of the bands, dance offs, and american idolkind ofdealies - competing for fame titles, cash prizes, andgame show type prizeslike vehicles and jewelry. Maybe after so many wins for your group, you could schedule a show at a new venue (for a party) or move on to some higher level of competition against other groups from other cantinas. There could be like a tournament hierarchy.

I think that'd be fun as long as it was done as a group. It wouldreally encourage solo ents to find a band/troupe and it would be a neat bragging right for Ent Guilds.

I do hope at the door I can select cantina 1-8 and go in from there.

I think it would be silly to even consider limiting NPC cantinas this way. Everyone does not always like to play the same songs, or in groups. Some entertainers prefer to only group with their friends and enjoy going from cantian to cantina.

The method I described didn't say that people couldn't heal "off stage", that's what the OP said. The method I described would let you heal offstage all you wanted to, even AFK if that's your thing... you just wouldn't get paid by the system for it and you wouldn't be in the most central location - the main stage.

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Panthu wrote:
The method I described didn't say that people couldn't heal "off stage", that's what the OP said. The method I described would let you heal offstage all you wanted to, even AFK if that's your thing... you just wouldn't get paid by the system for it and you wouldn't be in the most central location - the main stage.

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But that is allowed now and it is done currently at player events and cantinas. Limiting anything in a NPC town to select people I am against. I have been to events as you described that had prizes which included as a bragging right there was a statue named for them and placed, I believe the band also won 1 millioncredits. They also had the Title of being the best band for a few months in a row.

Why do we need to have them design something that is allready there for us to do, if we wish to take the time to set it up?

I don't know it just seems that we players have the resources to do a lot if we wish.

I may be in the wrong profession I guess. oh well.