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Thread: Coronet Cantina

RAma2003
Mon May 03, 2004 5:45 am
#1

Can someone please tell me why, in the Coronet Cantina (and other Cantinas), all the enteratiners, and everyone else, hang out right therein the little enterance room rather then the *actual* cantina? I walk thru the door and there are always 30+ toonsdancing, playing music, and spamming their macros....

Just seems it would make more sense to use the cantina instead of the little room in front of the Cantina..


Discuss amongst yourselves...




RAma
Echinacea
Mon May 03, 2004 6:35 am
#2

This became prevalent when wannabe Jedi started plowing through the performing professions. Closer to the door = more Entertainment Healing experience, in their minds.



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SioBabble
Thu May 06, 2004 12:29 am
#3






Echinacea wrote:
This became prevalent when wannabe Jedi started plowing through the performing professions. Closer to the door = more Entertainment Healing experience, in their minds.







This isn't an unreasonable assumption, because if you've got less than 1GB RAM clientside, one of the lag areas is the entrance corridors into cantinas. So, if entertainers are right there in the foyer, you'll stop, /watch or /listen, and get your BF and M wounds taken care of, and leave without going any farther in.


It's especially true since the hologrinding began, as cantinas are no longer social areas to stop and rest a bit and chat with the entertainers (those who aren't afk), but are quick waystations before you head back out and hit the combat/scout grinds. The "hurry up and grind" is an across all professions phenomenon and has a multitude of gameplay implications.


In beta and just after release cantinas were great places to unwind a bit after a hunt and just socialize and perhaps pick up a dancer to go hunting with you. I know this happened with my little hunting group on Ahazi. We made a few friends in cantinas who later became members of the PA we founded two months after release.





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Tenfo
Thu May 06, 2004 12:50 am
#4

Well Tae'da my Virtuosois mind buffing in the main cantina area and it's almost empty.


IF you want to avoid the doorway spam croud come into the main cantina.






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nvoigt
Thu May 06, 2004 2:42 am
#5

This isn't an unreasonable assumption, because if you've got less than 1GB RAM clientside, one of the lag areas is the entrance corridors into cantinas. So, if entertainers are right there in the foyer, you'll stop, /watch or /listen, and get your BF and M wounds taken care of, and leave without going any farther in.



Matter of fact, with 1GB of RAM and a dsl connection I go into the cantina, take 10 steps in the cantina and only then I see the people and furniture loading. Those at the entrance are already in my back when that happens.

SioBabble
Thu May 06, 2004 11:07 am
#6






nvoigt wrote:

This isn't an unreasonable assumption, because if you've got less than 1GB RAM clientside, one of the lag areas is the entrance corridors into cantinas. So, if entertainers are right there in the foyer, you'll stop, /watch or /listen, and get your BF and M wounds taken care of, and leave without going any farther in.



Matter of fact, with 1GB of RAM and a dsl connection I go into the cantina, take 10 steps in the cantina and only then I see the people and furniture loading. Those at the entrance are already in my back when that happens.








Well, you're not one of the unfortunates operating with less than that...the clientside RAM is the issue here, I've had a DSL connection continuously since beta, and the performance increase between a 512 RAM box and a 2GB RAM box (SWG only uses 750 odd MB of RAM) is dramatic. You can actually manuver through the corridors of the cantinas and starports in real time, not in stutter fashion.


So, if you deal with the serious lag issues, just stepping into the cantina and going no further is very attactive.





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BooshkaUK
Fri May 07, 2004 6:55 am
#7

Simply put RAma, they are idiots. People with common sense will ignore them and go into the less congested area to get their BF healed and ignore the spamming muppets. I always look for someone ATK and not in a group to get my BF healed, no way am I going to reward spamming AFK tossers who crowd doorways.


Maybe the DEVS should make it that you can only get BF healing XP by being in certain areas of the cantina.



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therealzizz
Mon May 10, 2004 8:51 am
#8

The cantinas have back doors...



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RAma2003
Mon May 10, 2004 2:24 pm
#9

hehe, thought I'd come back and revisit my post. I was in Theed yesterday...entered the Cantina...and nobody was in the enterance, so I figured the cantina was empty, but I decided to check further inside and to my SURPRISE it was packed in there. People weren't using the enterance for once! I was able to find a table and kick back and enjoy the entertainment!


/cheer





RAma
CAWCAW
Mon May 10, 2004 11:43 pm
#10

The most insanely dumb thing about this is as long as they are grouped, it does not matter WHERE they are, or if anyone even watches/listens to them directly at all -- they will still get entertainer healing xp. Near as I can figure, you walk in, watch someone, the rate at which you are healed is based on the healing skill levels of the person you are watching/listening. However, the xp they generate (or would generate if they are xp capped (namely dedicated masters)) gets COPIED to everyone in the group. The xp you see per tick is the summation of the xp generated by each person in the group. You don't get any more for actually being watched/listened directly.


This is also a thing for people to keep in mind when they bring their buddies in to get diseased by a CM. They have the tendancy to watch their guildmate/friend they are trying to help level. Instead, they should watch/listen the most powerful healer in that group. They will heal more wounds/BF per tick, allowing the disease to cause more wounds instead of getting capped at a maxed out black blue HAM bar, so the xp per tick will be higher. In the end, yes, xp is based on number of wounds and BF healed. But when using an artifical source of wounds, healing that as fast as possible means more xp in a shorter period of time. Watching your newb entertainer friend is counter-productive to helping the level quickly.


At least, that's the way I observed it to work...


LordAvatar
Tue May 11, 2004 10:31 am
#11

Coronet cantina in Tarquinas has been getting better, at least since I've been performing there.


I remain the main group leader (I appear as soon as the servers come up) and request that my group stays in the main area. It usually works, and only one or two wander off to the front.



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SachielDVangel
Sat May 15, 2004 3:27 pm
#12

I found that the resone most were doing it (at least before thanksgiving stateside) was to have an artisan friend sample radioactive at the doorway to get wounds/battle fatigue and listen while doing it. Both could afk (which has f00ked our prof terribly) and never have to look back. I think (don't quote me) that the devs did something to make this un-do-able anymore.



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TheJawaJubbo
Mon May 17, 2004 4:26 am
#13

well as a non entertainer who often goes to coronet for a heal b4 a buff i do the following (and i get bad lag). i generally look for a master if poss, if not the next best thing (a dancer and musician). one who is not AFK. i will go to the main part too to look (incase a friend is dancing). i then listen to one and watch the other. seems u can do both.



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