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Zelos1

Sat Jun 05, 2004 5:49 pm

Conflicting stories on this one. Kirk Black/Runesabre strongly implied that musicians/dancers would not be self-buffing as it was a design decision. Dave White (in a different panel) stated that the lack of self-buffing was a technical issue. Furthermore he stated that fixing this technical issue was "high-priority" and that "we need to get it in there soon".

Kirk Black is Dave White's boss (if I'm not mistaken) but Kirk's answer wasrather vague and seemedsomewhat defensive in my opinion.I don't have a specific quote because Kirk basically backed into implying that self-buffing would not be coming. Dave's answer on the other hand was very specific and confident.

Interpret as you will.

Groovymarlin

Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:24 pm

#2

Yeah, Kirk's whole reason for no self-buffs for entertainers was very similar to the reason he gave for IDs not being able to migrate their own stats - encouraging interaction. Furthermore, he really seems concerned that if they let entertainers buff ourselves, that it will somehow endanger our value in the game or hurt our viability as a profession.

I just don't see it. it takesa lot of skill points just to get even all four boxes in the technique tree to give a 75% buff, much less all the boxes required to get master dancer or musician. I really don't think that the fear that players will "dabble" in dancer or musician in order to buff themselves, putting all us full-time entertainers out of business, is valid. Oh well.

I must say, at the entertainment professions forum, Kirk looked terrified and traumatized. I think we scared him! ;-)

La'lepa Ofo

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Drygo

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:19 pm

#3

How odd. It honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The idea that people will spend all the skill points necessary to...oh...get novice ID to migrate their own stats, and enough skill points to go up musician and dancer to buff themselves...and oh...I dunno, go up doc enough to buff themselves, and then still have enough SP to take on a couple of uber l33t combat profs is absolutely ridiculous.

Someone *may* decide to dabble in maybe *one* of these professions for these benefits, but I sincerely doubt it. I'm also not sure why it matters because in all honesty, people do it with scout and medic already and it hasn't hurt their profs one bit. I also find it ironic that all of the afk'ing and buff botting is allowed to go on. And, those are the two things that are *truly* hurting our viabilities, usefulness, and income. I bet you we'd be much more in demand if afk buffbots were done away with and they let us buff ourselves.

Besides, I thought the whole idea was interdependency between *different* professions. I still do not understand or agree with the reasoning that *every* other profession in this game besides the entertainers are able to use their own skills for their own benefits, but we are not. It didn't destroy them, did it? I seriously doubt it's going to destroy us. The logic just seems extremely faulty, ironic, and a double standard, to me, considering everything else that goes on.

Ok...I did the math...if someone dabble enough to migrate their own stats, and give themselves 75% buffs in both dancer and musician, they'd only have enough SP left over to master one combat profession. I suppose it's conceivable that a good portion of players may decide to do this. However, I have to wonder...among the hardcore PvE'ers and PvP'ers, how many of them only have one mastered elite combat profession? That would totally negate the CM combos, or the one melee/one ranged combos, or the hybrid/whatevers. I mean, I just don't see it happening. I could be wrong, but I think most people will opt for the firepower as opposed to the buffing. After all, how many people do you see that go up doctor just for the buffing along with their combat skills? Yes, there are some, but it's really a small percentage.

There are plenty of people in this game that enjoy playing the game for other reasons besides just combat. And, the hardcore combat people aren't going to spend all their points on self buffs and stat migrations. In fact, if entertainers were more useful to ourselves, I suspect that there might be more people that would get those professions and master them. I know a whole lot of people who have dropped them because they aren't useful to themselves. I did that on one of my characters. I began to get fed up with being the only one in a hunting or raiding party that wasn't buffed, and therefore, the first to be mind incapped. I just think entertainer self buffs would be good for the entire player base. People, entertainers and non-entertainers wouldn't get so frustrated because they can't find mind buffs because there'd be more of us keeping a profession because it is finally useful to us. And, quite possibly, there wouldn't be a need for the buffbots anymore. Because, in all honesty, as it stands, there is a *lack* of willing and able entertainers to give mind buffs, and there is a lack of ID's to give stat migrations. We are not suffering from oversaturation in the market by any stretch of the imagination. People need us and want us, and giving us a reason and encouraging us to be there would be a step in the right direction of improving the overall situation and decreasing frustrations among everyone, not just us.

Message Edited by Drygo on 06-05-2004 11:41 PM

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Gknee

Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:43 am

#4

I was at that panel as well. It did get a little conflicting but I dont' think Runesabre had read the current 19 answers. I could be mistaken. I do think a lot of neat and interesting ideas were presented to them about player missions and things like that. Will be interesting to see what they have for us after the combat balance/jedi/JTL

Ooo....interesting point on JTL. You can have your Nalargon on YT1300!!

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