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Thread: Why Entertainers need 15 more SP

Nightsky-N-RR
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:52 am
#1

Well, it's an idea anyway. Master Entertainer is really a worthless badge IMO, but you have to train up the last three branches to make Master Dancer and Musician. This leaves a dream of Master Image Designer unattainable by about 15 points or so. You can train up to 4414, but that's it. I think that the costs of Master Dancer and Musician should be lowered just enough to allow another 15 points so one can also master ID if they wish.


Mind you, this is my suggestion, and if I'm way off, I welcome the reasons why. Just don't get personal.



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Maisland
Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:00 pm
#2




Nightsky-N-RR wrote:

Well, it's an idea anyway. Master Entertainer is really a worthless badge IMO, but you have to train up the last three branches to make Master Dancer and Musician. This leaves a dream of Master Image Designer unattainable by about 15 points or so. You can train up to 4414, but that's it. I think that the costs of Master Dancer and Musician should be lowered just enough to allow another 15 points so one can also master ID if they wish.


Mind you, this is my suggestion, and if I'm way off, I welcome the reasons why. Just don't get personal.



You need exactly 16 more skill points to get all of the entertainer masteries. I know... this has been my dream for a long, long time. I have a character who I plan on making a master ID that is currently a Master Dancer/Entertainer/Musician and am debating which (Dancer or Musician) to drop skills on so I can get master ID. I don't want to have to drop any of the skills but there are just not enough points to allow me to do what I want.



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JPistol
Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:23 pm
#3

Maisland

Master Image Designer, Novice Muscian, Master Dancer. If you are strickly talking character usefulness.



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Kealles
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:00 pm
#4


Do MID, MM, MEand as much as you can in Dancer. The nalargon (and music buffs) are worth it over their Dancer counterparts, in my opinion... I know I'm happy with just popular2 and poplock2.



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Maisland
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:38 pm
#5





JPistol wrote:
Maisland

Master Image Designer, Novice Muscian, Master Dancer. If you are strickly talking character usefulness.







Kealles wrote:


Do MID, MM, MEand as much as you can in Dancer. The nalargon (and music buffs) are worth it over their Dancer counterparts, in my opinion... I know I'm happy with just popular2 and poplock2.




There are plusses and minuses for both these options. I know that Musician Buffs are the more useful, but I am better at and love Dancer more (I have 3 Musicians and 2 of those are also Dancers, but then I have 2 Master Dancers with no Music skills ). Right now, since my character that I want this for is already Master Dancer/Entertainer/Musician, I am taking my time going up in ID. I figure that by the time I need to have made up my mind which to sacrifice (Dancer or Musician) that I will have made that decision. I don't want to give either of those skills up... but am torn between functionality (Musician) and aesthetics (Dancer).


The only thing I would lose from Musician wouldbe a) better buffs, b) the ability to play the Nalargon (I never play it now) and c) the Virtuoso song (which I don't really like). So the only consideration here is really the better buffs... and this character doesn't do all that much buffing (mostly for friends on group hunts). If I could get my hands on a +25 music buff skill tape, it wouldn't even be a consideration.

Message Edited by Maisland on 02-25-2005 02:41 PM



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LyteFoot
Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:04 am
#6

Well I disagree that master ent is worthless. As a musician I love the mandoviol and ceremonial. I think it is critical to my RP as a musician to be able to play all instruments and songs in the game. Dancer and ID is a very different situation but even for dancer there are a couple of "2" dances in the master box that you won't have.

The main reason I don't worry about being able to master ID, Dance, and Music is because it would be like mastering 3 elite combat professions. I don't believe that is possible either so it balances somewhat.



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Esharra
Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:18 am
#7

Yeah..I was kind of thinking that anyone who would say that has probably never played a mandoviol.



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NivekAsh
Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:27 am
#8

This is not a flame, but merely a clarification. It is possible to master 3 combat professions. They all have to be ranged, or melee, and no hybrid professions. But it is possible to be M. Carbineer, Pistoleer, and Rifleman, and have 4 SP leftover. This is because, for those profs, the ranged support line isn't required. The same is true for brawler. 3 Melee profs can be mastered, because you don't need that 4th line in brawler for anything. Just stumbled on this thread and thought I would offer some clarification. Good day to all.



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ChiiTWINS
Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:17 am
#9

If you're willing to sacrifice dancer healing, and 2 of the exotics, you can do 4241 dancer, and still have MID, ME, and MM.

It was my original template for an old alt that I wound up rerolling.




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Allia_Rain
Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:16 am
#10

I'd go with the one I enjoy more, being able to help other players with buffs is nice but I can useally count on one hand the amount of times I'm asked for buffs in a week although I'm a master dancer not a musican so maybe musicansget asked more.




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Maisland
Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:07 pm
#11




ChiiTWINS wrote:
If you're willing to sacrifice dancer healing, and 2 of the exotics, you can do 4241 dancer, and still have MID, ME, and MM.

It was my original template for an old alt that I wound up rerolling.




Or, I could sacrifice Musician healing, the Nalargon and Virtuoso and do 4/2/4/1 Musician, and still have MID, ME and MD. That's the problem, sure the one would be of more use to customers (musician buffs are better than dancer buffs) but I really love dancer more than musician... and I would not lose any of the songs/instruments that I do like to play if I sacrificed Musician instead of Dancer.


As I said, it is a choice between functionality (musician) and aesthetics (dancer)... and I am torn between the two. I would love almost any change to skill points and/or thecost of the professions that would allow me to have all 4 Masteries... my ideal would be to allow us to get all of the entertainer based professions as long as we don't learn any skills from any other professions.




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DivaShowtime
Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:31 am
#12

to have more skillpoints, so we will be able to be dance/music/id master at the same time would be nice, but adding more skillpoint is not a possible solution because then the fighters will be able to build other templates with the 15+ more skillpoints too.


the easiest way to make dance/music/id master possible would be just to remove the entertainer and make dance, music, ID starter professions. to addthe entertainer music part/instuments into musician, ent dances into dancer, andent IDinto the image designer will be easy, and after mastering of 3 beginner professions there will still be 19 unused skillponts the only thing that would need a change then would be the buff part to avoid "cheep" (skillpoint whise) buff bots, but a solution to that problem is easy too, novice=no buff .. +5 with each learned skill.



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