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Thread: Illogical Musician confusion
OK, I'm a newbie entertainer, just now getting Novice Musician, and I noticed something that I find utterly illogical...I'll never learn to play the Mandoviol. I can make one, but can't learn to play it?
Oh, if i decide I want to play with makeup and learn to dance, then that mystically teaches me the needed skills to play it? But what if I don't want to do those things? I can be a Master Musician, a Master of the music creation profession, and I can't play a musical instrument that is learned in a beginning profession? That, and the notes to the Ceremonial tune somehow are beyond my grasp unless I learn how to pluck peoples' eyebrows and shake my tush?
I've seen this in other professions and it didn't make any sense there, either. I realize that there must be a perk to being a Master, but IMHO it should come in the form of very high bonuses to the skills we have, not special abilities that below either up in the elite professions, or down in the individual trees. The Master, like the Novice, is a "generic" distinction. However, everyone has to be a Novice, so it contains something from all the trees. No one has to be a Master to advance to their individual elite professions, so it should not contain anything that a Master Musician should be able to do.
It takes very little time to get Image Design 4. You should have some friends by now, so they'll let you mess with their hair. You don't even have to change anything, all you have to do is set up the option and it'll still give you the points. Also, when you're able and you have a friend or someone you know that is a Zabrak or a Rodian do their horn/nose color. 100 exp each time, easy.
It also isn't that terrible to learn how to dance, speaking as a male Bothan who had to go through that. I just put on a skirt and was fine. I don't dance much, but formal and formal2areof the prettiest dances. ![]()
"Oh, if i decide I want to play with makeup and learn to dance, then that mystically teaches me the needed skills to play it?"
You don't just learn the mandoviol and ceremonial song, you also learn two dances. Being a Master Entertainer means being a Master Entertainer and getting skills as one. I know a Master Musician is believed to supposed to know all the instruments and songs, but it doesn't make sense to strip a Master Entertainer of those abilities either.
It really isn't as hard as you and a few others make it out to be. ![]()
I didn't say it was hard, I said I didn't want it, for two reasons:
- I'm currently at 0/250 of my learning cap, which means I can't learn any more skills, and every skill I want to learn means surrendering another. That makes every skill choice I make have to count. If there was no learning cap, I wouldn't be arguing this.
- I don't WANT those skills, and don't agree that they are logically progressive...why do I need to learn makeup and tush-wiggling to play the Mandioval?
But anyway, if you can't give up the skills and don't want to learn them -- *shrugs* Gonna have to live without the mandoviol until the creators think differently.
Master Musician, or M Ent. I forget which, gets a +10 melee defence and a +10 ranged defence bonus.
So now to be a "true Master Fighter" class or whatever and get your total max possible melee def. in the game you have to have master ent? I don't think so. it's just in there as a bonus on the top for us part-time combatants.
Master Ent. needs something to make it special and an instrument and song is great for that purpose. Now whether or not the mando should be that instrument is debateable and is being debated. I have no problem however with a unique instrument for the Master Ent.
What is you're suggestion to keep Master Ent. unique and a reward for spending the skill points? other wise i'll just get the novice skills and go pick up Poke Master as well.
Virtuoso on a mandoviol.
If you could play it at master musician, that would be a rare thing to hear. But it's much more special because it's hard to get virtuoso and mandoviol.