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Thread: Unattended gameplay using macros is a violation of the TOS. Why can't the CSRs do their job?
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Beery
Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:24 am
#1
Unattended gameplay while using macros is a violation of the TOS. Why can't we justinsist thatthe CSRs to do their job? Buffbots are already illegal - let's just get Sony to arrest them. This is how to do it:
1. Mr. Buffbot comes into your cantina and starts his unattended gameplay shenanigans.
2. You make sure Mr. Buffbot is playing the game unattended.
3. You contact a CSR.
4. You explain to the CSR that you've noticed a playerin contravention of rule 7 of the TOS. You ask him/her to boot said player.
5. CSR says 'oh dear' then frantically looks up rule 7 of the TOS.
6. CSR (who can't make heads nor tails ofTOS rule 7)asks you what the problem is.
7. You say: "in contravention of rule 7 of the TOS (lines 9 & 10) this player is using a macro which allows unattended game play.
7. CSR does his job andboots said player, gives him a warning, or cancels his account.
fett3041
Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:44 am
#2
I've done this many times, including adding the fact that the buffbot is interfering with my gameplay by stealingXP whileAFK. I've also mentioned their 30 second instruction spam. I've kept my reports concise and polite, quoting the ToS, and explaining the effects on the gameplay of live performers trying to make their way through the galaxy.
I've been told on every occasion that (at this time) Section 7 only refers to 3rd party macro programs, that using the ingame macro system for character advancement is allowed in any form, that unless they have at least 30 seconds between spam messages it's considered 'advertising', and of course, to put the offender on ignore. Still have the screenshots of the CSR replies.
Until we finally see action on recursive macros, or until they finally just say that yes, Section 7 includes the ingame macro system, I see no reason to even bother with 'doing our job'. It's not our job anymore, and we seem to be the only ones who care.
Echinacea
Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:49 am
#3
Get it through your head, woman. The TOS
- doesn't mean a thing unless SOE is losing money somewhere and
- has been defined on numerous occassions by SOE officials to be referring to 3rd party software macros
not the "robust" in-game macroing system that was included so "everyone would have the same opportunities" to make "the playing field even."
You're worse than a pro-AFK troll at this point.
Beery
Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:50 am
#4
"Until we finally see action on recursive macros, or until they finally just say that yes, Section 7 includes the ingame macro system, I see no reason to even bother with 'doing our job'. It's not our job anymore, and we seem to be the only ones who care."
I agree with you. I haven't even played the game in over a month. It's pretty sad that I can't even bring myself to go into a cantina. It used to be so much fun.
P.S. Echinacea, I'm a guy. My character in game is a woman. I'm not sure why you would think I'm a woman. I'm no more a female than you are the Millennium Falcon.
Message Edited by Beery on 11-07-2004 11:42 AM
Okina_nui
Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:27 am
#5
i agree with Beery 100%.
I tried to push for this a while ago too.
Panthu
Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:27 pm
#6
Tarot actually is the MF though... that's why she kicks so much butt in PvP. *nods*
Beery wrote:
I'm no more a female than you are the Millennium Falcon.
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