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Thread: Imperial crackdown- copy from music thread

sweatyclimber
Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:53 am
#1


In the new content, Imperials come and shake down cantinas and scan people for illegal items. I have to say, If they are NOT going to make us part of the GCW ASAP then we should be immune to this. A /registered performer should be immune to all scans and harrassment. Why? this is what i see as a master musician/ master entertainer/ politician. Im playing in bestine for many of my friends. Once an hour there is a shake down and asim playing guess what? WHAK/ WHAM Im dead as i couldnt fight back but im a rebel and had to be attacked. Now you say switch sides... but with all the work i've put in, I don't want to and like the rp value of rebels in hiding. However I have only risk and no reward as a non combatant under the current system. My previous idea bout us being information gatherer's would give us some risk verse reward. here is a clip of a post about the discussion on the crack down:



One concern about the cantina shakedowns is for performers. Im sorry but if your not going to include the performers into the gcw then killing them while playing is just wrong. Now if they are going to be a part of the war thats a different story. There is an easy way to do so. Let them be information gatherer's since people talk when drunk. Make the confiscation list change daily or weekly. Let entertainers learn this from missions or in the cantina. Then they can pass the info to the playerbase. That way if they want to play in an imperial city as a rebel, there is a risk vs. reward. They are risking death but doing so so they can help the rebels learn what the imperials are scanning that week.Otherwise if its just me playing a tune, getting shotand killed, its lame.


I love the idea of confiscation if it were properly implimented.By having a known "list" I don't think that people would mind the confiscation thing as much. Especialy if we could learn one week in advance then its really there loss for bringing the item in an area they knew would they would be scanned in. Maybe when it comes to recources, its not the whole amount but a percentage. Having confiscation but a way to learn what the empire will be looking for really makes it up to them and puts a lot of strategy into the game. Just make lists anounced via entertainer missions one week prior. Make the list specific such as slicedLCC's, Lokian wheat and Muon will be the top of the confiscation list this next week. Implement it this way and while people may be a little upset when they lose stuff, they had warning in advance and could have taken mesures in advance as well. Plus this allows for a whole new area of contend for taylors, smuglers and ID people. All of which can have items for consealment. Ie taylors can make backpacks with "hidden areas" ID people change the look making them apear as imperial and open to saying "soldier move along" and its obvious about smugglers.



Do something like this dev's and i'd be ok with being attacked when playing because i have risk vs reward. don't and your just gunna **** off entertainers even more.


but alas i joke because this was posted in the entertainer thread and thus will never be read.




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TusserkSuurg
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:16 pm
#2

its actually a good point, i hope the devs dont screw this up..






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sweatyclimber
Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:58 pm
#3






Tiaga wrote:


Mind if I play devils advocate here?


In the new content, Imperials come and shake down cantinas and scan people for illegal items. I have to say, If they are NOT going to make us part of the GCW ASAP then we should be immune to this.


Last I checked if you are not a part of the GCW (IE neutral) you are immune, provided you don't have anything illegal. Once you have picked a side, you are a part of the GCW. If you chose rebel, there are risks. This is a war and the rebellion is being hunted down and slaughtered like dogs. You risk being detected by a covert detector in a middle of a bunch of storm troopers. You risk getting a TEF and being hunted by other players. And you risk being caught by troops who rigerously scour the cities for rebel scum.


Similarly, if you choose to carry illegal goods (IE spice or illegally modified weapons or armor) you are also taking a risk. What's the reward to go with that risk? Well, you have better equipment and buffs that people who follow the straight and narrow don't have.






hi tiaga , neutrals are not immune they suffer fines as well... and it can even be because of resources... so yeah while their idea is great they still have some work to do on it uneless we want teh cantina's emptying out as imps roll through... on the upside i heard if you ignore them they are likely to attack in which case, it would be a great way to empty the afk entertainres



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Tiaga
Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:10 pm
#4

And have you seen this yourself?


I can tell you right out that some of what you "heard" is patently untrue. I've personally experienced evidence to the contrary. You might want to be careful about starting a big campaign against something that doesn't exist. Also keep in mind there may still be changes to the system.



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sweatyclimber
Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:19 pm
#5






Tiaga wrote:

And have you seen this yourself?


I can tell you right out that some of what you "heard" is patently untrue. I've personally experienced evidence to the contrary. You might want to be careful about starting a big campaign against something that doesn't exist. Also keep in mind there may still be changes to the system.







no i should note i have not seen this first hand just read all the millions of posts on all the different forums on it so your right i should have be more carful how i word things btw i haven't said this yet but your doing a fine job as the ent corespondant and also i'm not trying to start a campain against it just seeing this as a good oportunity for the dev's to include us more and so trying to start a good discussion thread on the subject from us about us


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Tiaga
Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:49 am
#6


Mind if I play devils advocate here?


In the new content, Imperials come and shake down cantinas and scan people for illegal items. I have to say, If they are NOT going to make us part of the GCW ASAP then we should be immune to this.


Last I checked if you are not a part of the GCW (IE neutral) you are immune, provided you don't have anything illegal. Once you have picked a side, you are a part of the GCW. If you chose rebel, there are risks. This is a war and the rebellion is being hunted down and slaughtered like dogs. You risk being detected by a covert detector in a middle of a bunch of storm troopers. You risk getting a TEF and being hunted by other players. And you risk being caught by troops who rigerously scour the cities for rebel scum.


Similarly, if you choose to carry illegal goods (IE spice or illegally modified weapons or armor) you are also taking a risk. What's the reward to go with that risk? Well, you have better equipment and buffs that people who follow the straight and narrow don't have.



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But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
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NewJedi
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:03 pm
#7

What Tiaga said: I thought the devs just posted that neutrals aren't supposed to be subject to confiscation. But I'll ask about it in the Correspondent Forum, if Tiaga hasn't already.


Assuming neutrals are immune, I love the idea of crackdowns in cantinas. My main is a Master Musician who RP's a rather feisty rebel -- and he is a Second Lieutenant (or some such)in the rebellion who happens to have near-Master skill in carbine. He would love to mix it up with some STs inside the cantina.


NeoTheHutt
Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:00 pm
#8

*sigh* this is the LAST time i am posting this:


Everyone is being punished! Every bounty hunter, artisan, musician, rifleman, ect. This would be fair if nueterals werent punnished

Imperial/Rebel Entertainers SHOULD be able to be attacked, unless artisans cant be attacked either

It just wouldnt be "fair"




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NeoTheHutt
Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:25 pm
#9

....and once again im one starred




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